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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:42 pm

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Laura wrote:I believe they & Gorgoroth are the only really big names in black metal that I haven't listened to at all yet (although I think I have youtubed Gorgoroth once or twice.


When you get around to Gorgoroth let me know and I'll spam you with links :mrgreen:


Aye, GL with Darkthrone. They have some cool punk vibes to them but never got into them. Me and mooyagi are split on Ghaalgoroth vs Gorgoroth. Me for the first so if you are shooting old school on that I bow out to him. I don't dislike the old stuff but prefer when the production and deliverance grew some balls (Oh Ghaal! :roll: ).

For second wave or trüe black metal I will always vote for Burzum. But will spare the pissing and moaning on that one. :beerwink:
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:51 pm

Laura wrote::P Hell beer? Sounds like a good match for Barge to Hell. Someone should start pimping that beer to RC/UMC - I'd vote for King Pimp Kevin :P but I don't think he's much of a beer drinker, plus he might think it too "gimmicky" ;) :P - someone else may have ro step up to the plate. :lol:


Yea, there is the stench of gimmick. Watain are a good BM band to me but never stood solely on musical merit till more the latest and greatest. Think a lot of the growing popularity is their GG Allin freak show approach though GG Allin trumps these gents by comparison (Would you rather get him with animal blood or human shit of the lead singer? hmmm, quite the dilemma of entertainment). Let chaos ensue, I'll certainly enjoy it. :beerwink:
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Re: Black Metal

by mooyagi » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:13 am

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Laura wrote:I believe they & Gorgoroth are the only really big names in black metal that I haven't listened to at all yet (although I think I have youtubed Gorgoroth once or twice.


When you get around to Gorgoroth let me know and I'll spam you with links :mrgreen:


Aye, GL with Darkthrone. They have some cool punk vibes to them but never got into them. Me and mooyagi are split on Ghaalgoroth vs Gorgoroth. Me for the first so if you are shooting old school on that I bow out to him. I don't dislike the old stuff but prefer when the production and deliverance grew some balls (Oh Ghaal! :roll: ).

For second wave or trüe black metal I will always vote for Burzum. But will spare the pissing and moaning on that one. :beerwink:


But pissing and moaning is so much fun!
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Thu May 03, 2012 1:28 pm

Bumpin my fave thread with some good news (cigarette juice?):

New Nachtmystium track "As Made" stream
here: http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2012/05 ... s-as-made/

Discuss? My 2 cents it sounds a lot like a Ministry track off filth pig. Hmmmm. I like Filth Pig but this eh.

Ministry - Reload http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrIIRLOYGgo

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Or even more this as a commentor pointed out on IO.

This is uncomfortably close to “The Missing” by Ministry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9A0Om_EXbA



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Re: Black Metal

by Laura » Thu May 10, 2012 8:04 pm

soundcurve wrote:Bumpin my fave thread with some good news (cigarette juice?):

New Nachtmystium track "As Made" stream
here: http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2012/05 ... s-as-made/

Discuss? My 2 cents it sounds a lot like a Ministry track off filth pig. Hmmmm. I like Filth Pig but this eh.

Ministry - Reload http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrIIRLOYGgo

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Or even more this as a commentor pointed out on IO.

This is uncomfortably close to “The Missing” by Ministry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9A0Om_EXbA


Ha - yep that is pretty similar. ;) Big Ministry fan here (seeing them end of June for the first time)....I saw Nachtmystium once, but don't know their music really at all.

I've meaning to post this for awhile and it belongs on the Rammstein thread I suppose, but what the hell, I'll put it here. :lol: Talking about similarities....2 songs from 2 of my favorite bands (and for the record - the Die Krupps song came first.) I don't really care really...I love both bands and songs. :D

Die Krupps: Dawning of Doom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xKbSHyHmWg

Rammstein: Tier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHee_2E4nTE
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Fri May 11, 2012 1:38 pm

Laura wrote:Ha - yep that is pretty similar. ;) Big Ministry fan here (seeing them end of June for the first time)....I saw Nachtmystium once, but don't know their music really at all.

I've meaning to post this for awhile and it belongs on the Rammstein thread I suppose, but what the hell, I'll put it here. :lol: Talking about similarities....2 songs from 2 of my favorite bands (and for the record - the Die Krupps song came first.) I don't really care really...I love both bands and songs. :D

Die Krupps: Dawning of Doom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xKbSHyHmWg

Rammstein: Tier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHee_2E4nTE


Maybe a new thread, metal songs that sounds like other songs. Don't know Die Krupps a ton but spot on. Got me listening to Laibach - Wat now though! :beerwink:

You check out the new ministry yet? Al shoulda ended ministry. I prefer this one over the new ;)

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Re: Black Metal

by Laura » Tue May 15, 2012 11:36 am

I was going to start an industrial/industrial metal thread since you :cool: brought up Ministry, and write a big wall o text ;) - but haven't gotten around to for some reason....so, in short :lol: ....
Ministry is a great band andI I like them very much - but I must admit I'm basing my opinion on the fact that I only own and know really well four albums - With Sympathy (1983) - one of my *very* favorite albums from the 80s which I bought on vinyl when it came out, Land of Rape and Honey(1988), The Mind is a Terribe Thing to Taste (1989), and Psalm 69(1992). And ha! That last one is from 20 years ago and I know Al has put out a lot more music since then. Since I'm seeing them at long last in June, really need to listen to the later stuff in a concentrated way - with so many albums and a new one to boot (which I haven't heard btw yet), I have no idea what kind of set-list they'll do. Also - I think this is a "final" tour (although I think Al has said that before). Regardless, I'm really looking foward to the show - the Vic Theater is right across the street from an apartment (now condo) building that I lived in from around 1985-89 and relatively close to many of the great Chicago clubs of that era (which of course played a lot of Ministry tunes -Everyday is Halloween being a staple ;) ). So, it will be in part one of those nostalgic/memory lane kinda nights that I always enjoy for old time's sake. I wish Al would have done at least one more synthpoppy/new waveish album like With Sympathy before he switched gears - he was so *great* in that style - fake British accent and all. :P (even though I do like the other albums I have very, very much - can't really compare them to WS - they're so different).

Love the lyrics to the (released as a) single Everyday is Halloween
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXtX9u7_ ... ata_player

oh....and you mentioned Laibach :D :D - love Laibach and they were another band I heard a lot in the Chicago clubs in the 1980s along with Ministry....below is a cut and paste from the New Bands Recently Discovered thread when I brought up Parzival who I think is similar to Laibach. And weird Laibach connection recently...a woman from London who I met in Norway last summer at HITS recently posted on facebook that she was seeing Laibach in London and I responded - what??? THE Laibach as in the Slovenian Laibach??? :cool: And she said yes and later posted pix from the gig. Well, damn - that gig would have been about the coolest thing ever - from their website.... http://www.laibach.nsk.si/rec.htm
MONUMENTAL RETRO-AVANT-GARDE CONCERT IN LONDON
Laibach is announcing special retrospective concert performance in the Turbine Hall at Tate Modern, London, on April 14th, at 22:00h.

(*gasps* ...at the Tate Modern - that would have been awesome)

Laura wrote:A bit of a Laibach clone*, but really, really awesome imo just the same....
Parzival!
AD (ha - this video is epic - a castle AND a flying saucer! :lol: )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5krzKn4 ... ata_player

* which is actually fine with me, since I'm a crazy insane Laibach fan since - like - forever :lol:
Laibach: Geburt Einer Nation
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Laibach: Tanz Mit Laibach
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Tue May 15, 2012 3:04 pm

Laura wrote:I was going to start an industrial/industrial metal thread since you :cool: brought up Ministry, and write a big wall o text ;) - but haven't gotten around to for some reason....so, in short :lol: ....


Np on the wall of text, haha. Finally getting some of my life back here now that I finished my masters degree (last paper was a bitch). Yea, I recently heard "With Sympathy" and was surprised how good of a slab of synthpop it was. I always hear Al disowned the album cause the label put him up to it but think it is still good. Only goofy song is "what He Said" with the African sounding dude mumbling. I think the set you are in for will be very metal related and less industrial. My personal favorite is "The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste" minus the song "Test" (Again some dude rapping, uhg what was his obsession with that / guess it was the "cross-over" period ). So here is what you missed with my 2 cents! :shock:

Good albums but more of a metal Pink Floyd sound landscape with these than a frontal assault.
Filth Pig (1996)
Dark Side of the Spoon (1999)
Animositisomina (2003) Best outta the 3 but I enjoyed Filth Pig as well.

"The Trinity" - Bush Jr. Years
Houses of the Molé (2004) - This was a mutation of Psalm 69. Many of the riffs and song titles share commonality of Psalm 69.
Tommy Victor of Prong enters the picture here on and brings a bag of slamming riffs. Felt he was a good injection to Al.
Rio Grande Blood (2006) - Lot of peoples fave but not here. Some good songs though. Senor Peligro and Khyber Pass my faves.
The Last Sucker (2007) MY favorite outta the trinity.
Riffage from Last Sucker to crack some skulls to:
The Last Sucker - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LyF7yJ6NZs
Let's Go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wi4_E9oQzc

Relapse (2012) - Listened to it a couple times and only weak cause The Last Sucker was a good farewell album. Some okay riffs but feel a bit flaccid. The sounds sticks with the "trinity" sound though.

And agree, I enjoy Laibach when in the mood. Though I only have Wat so it is my favorite by default, haha.
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Re: Black Metal

by Laura » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:42 am

^^^ funny how the last post on this thread which segued into this thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2626 is about Ministry who I'm seeing tonight. (yay!)

But Back to Black Metal.....

A Norwegian guy I met in Bergen last August messaged me a few days ago about a black metal band from Kopervik, Norway he thought I’d like (and this is the person who was responsible for turning me on to Kvereltak last fall – my fave new discovery of 2011) - so I took notice. ;)

The band he mentioned is:
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https://www.facebook.com/#!/Kraakeofficial

Just listened to a few songs so far – definitely my kinda thing. Haha – although I don’t think I’ve heard a Norwegian black metal band so far that I *didn’t* like.

From the new album Conquering Death just released a few weeks ago.
And a Colder Breed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5LhgYVi ... re=related

And a song from an earlier album called The Great Leviathan of the Northern Sky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdxsXb9 ... 4BAE78CF57

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Re: Black Metal

by DJ Old Man Stares » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:04 pm

Laura wrote:Earlier on this thread I mentioned I had finally bought and watched the documentary Until the Light Takes Us and since Fenriz is one of the main guys interviewed in it - decided I finally needed to listen to some Darkthrone (I believe they & Gorgoroth are the only really big names in black metal that I haven't listened to at all yet (although I think I have youtubed Gorgoroth once or twice. There are many other bands out there of course that I haven't gotten around to yet, but will all in good time. :beerwink:

So, based on a fb and some other conversations with Darkthrone fans, decided to buy this one first - it's funny/strange to me that this album is 20 years old already! Just bought it so it will be my musique du jour.
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Re: Black Metal

by Laura » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:34 am

^^^ Thanks for this comment - I'll check that one out next. :cheers:
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:40 pm

Laura wrote:Just listened to a few songs so far – definitely my kinda thing. Haha – although I don’t think I’ve heard a Norwegian black metal band so far that I *didn’t* like.

From the new album Conquering Death just released a few weeks ago.
And a Colder Breed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5LhgYVi ... re=related

And a song from an earlier album called The Great Leviathan of the Northern Sky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdxsXb9 ... 4BAE78CF57


Ahoy Laura,

It is good though the orchestra/string parts seem to dwarf the band a little. I think I am pretty set in my black metal journey for a bit :D. I been finish a lot of my own tunes which is a journey in itself when having to do all the parts. But I enjoy it! I am trying to think of the last black metal band that I "discovered". Really just re-listening to many of good albums.

Been looking forward to the new Nachtmystium, new songs are excellent.

My fave so far: http://soundcloud.com/centurymediarecor ... d-hope-and

Has a very desolate feel that I love and speaking of orchestra I like the use of (synth) horns. I feel they merge well with guitars, been something I been working into my material.

The other which is a bit more straight ahead BM vibe: http://soundcloud.com/centurymediarecor ... ng-machine

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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:51 pm

soundcurve wrote: I am trying to think of the last black metal band that I "discovered".!


Now it comes to me and more the last two black metal influenced songs that really made me feel something.

First the more traditional being "Enthroned - Petraolevm Salvia" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TuBAFcF6w

Primitive as fuck but that is why I love it. Good band but can't speak for them making whole albums that I want to listen to.

The second and better of the two is from Abigail Williams new album. Speaking again of orchestra usage it is done well in this song.

Beyond The Veil - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxpUQK7-2qQ

It is 17 minutes but is their magnum opus. Another band that I couldn't recommend a album but the song is excellent. Sadly (or gladly for BM elitist) they are done. I can't say I blame them as they've tour with every band that's come through here and still haven't taken. The last album was mediocre imo but this "becoming" album deserves more time from me. I really think it is well written and thought out.

I like the red color cover too. If you have time it is really worth a listen. Many beautiful melodies.

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Re: Black Metal

by Laura » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:42 am

soundcurve wrote:
Laura wrote:Just listened to a few songs so far – definitely my kinda thing. Haha – although I don’t think I’ve heard a Norwegian black metal band so far that I *didn’t* like.

From the new album Conquering Death just released a few weeks ago.
And a Colder Breed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5LhgYVi ... re=related

And a song from an earlier album called The Great Leviathan of the Northern Sky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdxsXb9 ... 4BAE78CF57


Ahoy Laura,

It is good though the orchestra/string parts seem to dwarf the band a little. I think I am pretty set in my black metal journey for a bit :D. I been finish a lot of my own tunes which is a journey in itself when having to do all the parts. But I enjoy it! I am trying to think of the last black metal band that I "discovered". Really just re-listening to many of good albums.

Been looking forward to the new Nachtmystium, new songs are excellent.

My fave so far: http://soundcloud.com/centurymediarecor ... d-hope-and

Has a very desolate feel that I love and speaking of orchestra I like the use of (synth) horns. I feel they merge well with guitars, been something I been working into my material.

The other which is a bit more straight ahead BM vibe: http://soundcloud.com/centurymediarecor ... ng-machine

Still need to book the Barge!


The Nachtmystium tracks sound good so far - not a band I've really listened to although I enjoyed them when I saw them open for Marduk in 2009.

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Re: Black Metal

by mooyagi » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:07 am

My friend and former cabinmate from the first cruise just recorded a demo for his one man black/thrash project.

http://kleptocracy.bandcamp.com/
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Re: Black Metal

by Disco » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:53 am

My cousin showed me this a few years ago. It's pretty funny.

http://youtu.be/ZlKzlfqmzpQ
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:42 pm

Good news for me and fans of these bands. Looks like I got a good pregame with Nachtmystium and Weapon stopping by! \m/ So if they don't make BTH no biggie.

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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:09 am

"This from The Past" indeed.

Look forward to this "God Seed" release. Wasn't too big into "Ov Hell". Like the ending of the song a lot. Starts out a lot sounding Ghaal era Gorgoroth then morphs into something more (3 min. on) almost a la Nachtmystium's Assassins-era. Oh those moog filters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... QrnJdszr4o

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Though I am sure all the true gorgoroth fans are lapping up "Under the Sign of Hell 2011!!!" though. :lol:
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Re: Black Metal

by mooyagi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:11 am

soundcurve wrote:Though I am sure all the true gorgoroth fans are lapping up "Under the Sign of Hell 2011!!!" though. :lol:


Still haven't bothered to listen and never plan on doing it :lol:
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by mooyagi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:16 am

mooyagi wrote:
soundcurve wrote:Though I am sure all the true gorgoroth fans are lapping up "Under the Sign of Hell 2011!!!" though. :lol:


Still haven't bothered to listen and never plan on doing it :lol:


Okay, I lied. I just tried listening to Funeral Procession just to see what they did. What the fuck was that? Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64VDB6tScQ

Don't re-record classic albums! Especially if you're going to ruin the songs that much :bitch:
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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:14 am

mooyagi wrote:
mooyagi wrote:
soundcurve wrote:Though I am sure all the true gorgoroth fans are lapping up "Under the Sign of Hell 2011!!!" though. :lol:


Still haven't bothered to listen and never plan on doing it :lol:


Okay, I lied. I just tried listening to Funeral Procession just to see what they did. What the fuck was that? Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64VDB6tScQ

Don't re-record classic albums! Especially if you're going to ruin the songs that much :bitch:


Yea, the drumming is sterile as hell (Was the dude who did dissection's reinkaos and the last album). I don't like talking bad of other musician's but sounds more like a human glued to a metronome than a human playing the drums . Pest does a fair job vocally imo but the rest feels very limp. Sounds like they tuned it all down a step too. Better recording but lost a lot of the "grim" atmosphere. I prefer higher quality record vs. darkthrone/burzum specials but you do lose that old 2nd wave BM sound and for gorgoroth they were part of that sound for a while.

I don't have a huge emotional attachment to the album so the impact of a re-record is less for me but would agree with you on re-records. I know artist want to do it as they probably feel / hear it different than the fan and might bug the shit out of the creator. The technical mess ups / poor recording that made it to the album is the album fans love. They should of done at least a reinterpretation of old material giving it a bit more creativity vs. a simple re-record.

I know this falls on cauterized ears but I did like what Burzum did a bit more with "From the Depths of Darkness". Sadly I can't think of many re-records / re-inturps that I ever reference vs. the source though.
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by mooyagi » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:19 am

Sounds like the drums were recorded on this

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Re: Black Metal

by soundcurve » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:06 am

With the Nachtmystium announcement I'd figure I'd blow some dust off this thread and plop the "One Man Metal" documentary link in here even though I mentioned it in another.

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http://www.vice.com/noisey-vbs/one-man-metal-part-1
http://www.vice.com/noisey-vbs/one-man-metal-part-2
http://www.vice.com/noisey-vbs/one-man-metal-part-3

Might be a good watch for some fans of BM. I tried listening to Leviathan, Striborg and Xasthur with little staying power ( I am sure this isn't one listen material though). Though some of the material harkens to the stuff I dig in Burzum, it feel once you hear another band do it well it feels redundant when there is already a large amount of material of the style. I will say this stuff sounds miserable and takes dissonance to the limit so they did achieve their artist vision imo. I'd like to hear Leviathan with better production as it would sound much more devastating.

In the event anyone on this forum is big into those bands and can recommend a album that is a must please do though not sure I care for my head to be in that space when trying to recover from being in the hospital! :lol: Out of them all I find Xasthur stuff the most interesting. Definitely carries a suicidal/extreme despair vibe to it all which I believe is the main lyrical theme.
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by mooyagi » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:44 pm

That was a good watch. I'm not particularly familiar with the material of these artists, though I've heard of them many times. I suppose I should give a listen at some point.
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This is a nice clip of very early Gorgoroth, when Hat was doing the vocals (Hat = "Hate" in Norwegian, don't confuse it with the things you can wear on your head)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mIP0402huw (poor sound, but still cool),

Pentagram, Under the sign of hell and Antichrist are really good albums.
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by mooyagi » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:49 pm

strha wrote:This is a nice clip of very early Gorgoroth, when Hat was doing the vocals (Hat = "Hate" in Norwegian, don't confuse it with the things you can wear on your head)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mIP0402huw (poor sound, but still cool),

Pentagram, Under the sign of hell and Antichrist are really good albums.


Those are all great albums. I've made it no secret that I much prefer pre-Gaahl Gorgoroth (post-Gaahl hasn't been good either).
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I don't like the Gaahl/Kingofwhatever period to much either.
But Gaahl has some originality in his voice, the things he have done with Trelldom are way better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaTv6rJiiP4
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by mooyagi » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:02 pm

strha wrote:I don't like the Gaahl/Kingofwhatever period to much either.
But Gaahl has some originality in his voice, the things he have done with Trelldom are way better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaTv6rJiiP4


I'm listening to the link now, though it's failing to grab me. He does have a recognizable/unique voice but I thought it didn't fit too well with Gorgoroth. The songwriting went to shit with King too.
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by soundcurve » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:14 pm

Gaahl/King combo is my preference and am liking the "God Seed" album a lot. I think "Alt Liv" is a better representation of Gaahl vocals though I dig the whole package: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnwItSfmmk0

Definitely dig their output as it deviates from black metal basics by adding more brutal / death metal passages, tempo variance, and tonalities to the songs. Sounded much more sadistic, unorthodox, and punishing. The older stuff though having some good songs, sounds interchangeable with a lot of other BM bands around that time.
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Yay...since Anaal Nathrakh was announced today for 70K (and even though I'm not going) - I was inspired to re-read up on them and plan to listen to their latest album Vanitas in a bit. I came across this interesting review of the album which also includes some background info on the band. I love these comments in particular: Anaal Nathrakh's albums are labyrinths of hyperactivity and idiosyncrasy, each part veering and sprinting into an unexpected next direction. Hunt, who's currently completing a Master's Degree in Philosophy, builds worlds of literary references and poetic citations, multi-tracking them over Kenney's one-man audio horror show. It's strange, fearless music-- exactly the sort of stuff that too much additional input might temper by limiting the unbound eccentricity. :cool: :cool:

from: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17319-vanitas/
Anaal Nathrakh had been a band for years and released several albums by the time they finally climbed onto a stage in 2005. In a veil of naivety, the British duo gave itself a Conlon Nancarrow complex, assuming that no drummer could adequately perform their pre-programmed overload of black metal, grindcore and obliterative noise in real time. So rather than stand on stage with a drum machine, vocalist V.I.T.R.I.O.L., or Dave Hunt, and multi-instrumental mastermind Irrumator, or Mick Kenney, sequestered themselves with studio time. They created hyperbolically convulsive and complicated records that didn't heed the need to make sense onstage; instead, they twisted elements of extreme music together until they'd created a horrifying mongrel that sounded like little else. Their best albums, such as 2004's Domine Non Es Dignus and 2009's brilliant In the Constellation of the Black Widow, transgress a dozen forms of heavy at a brutal, unrepentant clip.

Anaal Nathrakh eventually started playing live, refuting their own hypothesis by recruiting a quite-capable rhythm section that now joins the band for shows but not on albums; rare one-offs morphed into the kind of short treks that, later this month, will send the pair to Canada for the first time. Still, the effect of that early decision-- to limit the membership to two and to thrive or perish based only on how immoderate the records could be-- remains: Anaal Nathrakh's albums are labyrinths of hyperactivity and idiosyncrasy, each part veering and sprinting into an unexpected next direction. Hunt, who's currently completing a Master's Degree in Philosophy, builds worlds of literary references and poetic citations, multi-tracking them over Kenney's one-man audio horror show. It's strange, fearless music-- exactly the sort of stuff that too much additional input might temper by limiting the unbound eccentricity.

The band's latest album, Vanitas, is neither its best nor its most frenzied, but it's still incredibly aggressive. The energy and urgency are as high as ever; during these 38 minutes, there's rarely a chance for rest or, more impressive, to predict what's coming. But perhaps for the first time, the previous decade's output does presage Vanitas, meaning that Hunt and Kenney haven't found a new way to ratchet the intensity higher, or to make their shrieking nightmares that much more frightening. Sure, "Feeding the Beast" incorporates a classic industrial breakdown in its first half, while "Todos Somos Humanos" builds toward its seismic rumble through glitches, sampler manipulation and a moment of stoner throb. And this might be the most conspicuously hook-driven Anaal Nathrakh album to date, too: A melody fit for hair metal emerges from the unintelligible screams and death metal snap of "Forging Towards the Sunset", crisscrossing layers of serrated vocals and clean-singing harmonies suggesting metalcore as swallowed by the abyss. During "In Coelo Quies, Tout Finis Ici Bas", Kenney's stacks of pummel and misdirection generally strangle Hunt, who spends the bulk of the song screaming like he's wheezing. A hook crests above the mess, Hunt belting his credo like a true Bruce Dickinson apostle. Previously for Anaal Nathrakh, those intense tangents and sudden switches sounded like revelations; on Vanitas, they simply sound like Anaal Nathrakh, a band that has been around long enough to turn its tricks into tropes.

That's not meant to be dismissive or to suggest somehow that Anaal Nathrakh have gotten soft. Even if it feels familiar, Vanitas is a thrill ride of horrors, still unencumbered by restraint or regard for how these songs might work outside of the studio. "We want a sensation or feeling rather than things you can figure out," Hunt told Invisible Oranges last year, explaining Anaal Nathrakh's approach. Indeed, innovations aside, Vanitas remains incredibly challenging and evocative: In less than three minutes, for instance, "Make Glorious the Embrace of Saturn" sweeps from D-beat to black metal and back again, a transition that's most interesting when those layers clash against one another. As the title might suggest, "You Can't Save Me, So Stop Fucking Trying" is relentlessly mean, the title serving both as a mantra for malevolence and a swivel for the song's switches between old-school thrash, Lightning Bolt-like weirdness and death metal chug. If that sounds a tad impossible, you probably haven't heard Anaal Nathrakh yet. As a stylistic culmination of sorts, Vanitas is a fine place to start.
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Conrad wrote:Brand new Carach Angren video for "Funerary Dirge of a Violinist".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=verpNmiLC5w

Taking this outta another thread as I recently discovered the band and was wondering if anyone mentioned them on here before. And "necroing" this thread from the graveyard :) Man, definitely a release I missed out on in 2012. Glad I found it now. Got the LP/CD and find them to take all the best parts of dimmu, CoF, and Septic Flesh then add their own flavor and design with the story telling and amazing orchestrations. "Funerary Dirge of a Violinist" is a beautiful song. The video doesn't do it justice. If they made the album into a "black metal opera" I'd be there. Much like they did with Entombed. This is easily a best of 2012 for me now. Bummer I missed out on this band for so long but glad I found em. Better late then never! :D

"It plays the music of the dead; music made of lead. "I've had enough of this sickening war and it's murderous puppets! They don't understand the language of music cannot be spoken in death. I never took a life! Maybe now is the time to take mine. In the name of music; shall I cut my wrists or hang myself high by a violin string? A symphonic suicide is what I shall bring!" :bmhorns:

Scope the video Conrad linked for a taste.

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by Laura » Sat May 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Oooh....favorite thread revival - thanks Mike. Guess I've been so progged out in the past week or so with seeing Wilson, Riverside & Pain of Salvation, that I've had little serious cat energy left for black metal. (because it is oh soooo serious :beerwink: - and I like it that way! :P )

But - I shall be back early next week!
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by Laura » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:36 pm

Haha - guess I didn't get back to this thread "early next week" as I said I would in my previous post. :P

Kevin recently posted this video by French black metal band Otargos to my fb wall recently (had not heard of them before) to which I replied...
Brutalicious. :beerhorns:
Did I coin a new word? :lol:
Anyway...this video is pretty rad & :cool: (albeit ever so slightly too grim for my taste in one part)....
buuuut.....overall, I give it at least an A for creativity *and* I dig this song. Will have to check out more Otargos on Spotify.

Otargos: Worship Industrialized http://youtu.be/DeqMR9EzgEU

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Otargos/16721
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by Laura » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 pm

really love this recent interview with Erik of Watain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6DjvEWjzs
...and yes, black metal is still my fave music genre regardless of all my love & recent talk here of classic rock (due to seeing several great gigs this summer) and progressive rock/metal due to excitement over booking the Prog Nation at Sea 2014 cruise. Haha - I'd love an all black metal fest - does such a thing even exist? :P The final Hole in the Sky fest I attended in Norway came the closest for me with many of the biggest names & many favorites all on the same bill including Enslaved, Immortal, Satyricon, Mayhem, Marduk, Helheim and others.

Oh, and I decided that I'm definitely going to the Watain gig here in October! Stoked - new album is brilliant!! I hadn't listened to much black metal this summer and it's great to hear a solid new album. Plus I've never seen them so that will be cool.
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by soundcurve » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:14 pm

Laura wrote:really love this recent interview with Erik of Watain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6DjvEWjzs
...and yes, black metal is still my fave music genre regardless of all my love & recent talk here of classic rock (due to seeing several great gigs this summer) and progressive rock/metal due to excitement over booking the Prog Nation at Sea 2014 cruise. Haha - I'd love an all black metal fest - does such a thing even exist? :P The final Hole in the Sky fest I attended in Norway came the closest for me with many of the biggest names & many favorites all on the same bill including Enslaved, Immortal, Satyricon, Mayhem, Marduk, Helheim and others.

Oh, and I decided that I'm definitely going to the Watain gig here in October! Stoked - new album is brilliant!! I hadn't listened to much black metal this summer and it's great to hear a solid new album. Plus I've never seen them so that will be cool.


Hail :beerhorns: the one thread I still lurk when I poke back for new announcements . . .
Yes, Do not turn your back on the true dark side. ;) And Watain, A couple stealer songs do not make a great band though I will never doubt their live show nor their marketing skills and will be at their show. I'll support their cause just not in it for the kool-aid.

Now! what you should be excited for is the new SATYICON. HOLY SHIT! am I loving it. Wish I lived in Norway atm to see http://www.operaen.no/en/Performances/S ... era-Choir/

It is already sold out but woulda been willing to fly to catch it. It would be a once in my life time moment I feel just like BTH. Magic.

And I really dig the most pop song on the album as well being a big Danzig/Gothic metal fan. "Phoenix" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhJ2XyzmPI

Give it a spin if it remains up. It isn't Satyr (Was Sivert Høyem) singing but love it none the less.

As for black metal fests, they are here and there. It is nice mgla are going to be at next MDF but something as badass as the line-up you hit to occur again, time will tell.

Check out mgla (love this track, #3): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcqC4jtrR9Y Their second album is great. "And you shall know perdition And it will set you free"

And I leave with . . .

Satyricon is all about pushing musical boundaries. What’s your opinion on black metal purists who see any form of musical progress as a betrayal to what black metal stands for?


The people you’re refering to as purist aren’t purists to me. People like me are the purists. People like you mentioned started out rather late and they’re a lot younger than the veterans of the scene and they don’t have the same insight and knowledge on black metal. They think they do in the way they dress and the way they look and the fake way they pretend and behave. It’s easy to see through and I’m not buying into that. I’m not going to be influenced by the politics of those people. I’m inspired by the ways of true pioneers like Tom G. Warrior who showed that the possibilities of black metal and occult music are limitless. It’s so easy to have a small group of people who are really loud and opiniated.They get too much credit and they’re allowed set more precedents than they deserve. I really disregard those people and I don’t look upon them as real. - Satyr ref: http://www.ghostcultmag.com/the-age-of- ... satyricon/

Couldn't agree more.
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by Laura » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:39 pm

Nice (long) post, Mike. ;) :cheers: Lots of great comments & info.

Need to listen to your links still....so will comment about those & more when I do.

I will say this, now though - that the MDF 2014 line-up is looking really great so far - would like to go, but doubtful at this point for me. Cool that it is near where you live!!

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by Laura » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:53 pm

soundcurve wrote:
Laura wrote:really love this recent interview with Erik of Watain - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6DjvEWjzs
...and yes, black metal is still my fave music genre regardless of all my love & recent talk here of classic rock (due to seeing several great gigs this summer) and progressive rock/metal due to excitement over booking the Prog Nation at Sea 2014 cruise. Haha - I'd love an all black metal fest - does such a thing even exist? :P The final Hole in the Sky fest I attended in Norway came the closest for me with many of the biggest names & many favorites all on the same bill including Enslaved, Immortal, Satyricon, Mayhem, Marduk, Helheim and others.

Oh, and I decided that I'm definitely going to the Watain gig here in October! Stoked - new album is brilliant!! I hadn't listened to much black metal this summer and it's great to hear a solid new album. Plus I've never seen them so that will be cool.


Hail :beerhorns: the one thread I still lurk when I poke back for new announcements . . .
Yes, Do not turn your back on the true dark side. ;) And Watain, A couple stealer songs do not make a great band though I will never doubt their live show nor their marketing skills and will be at their show. I'll support their cause just not in it for the kool-aid.

Now! what you should be excited for is the new SATYICON. HOLY SHIT! am I loving it. Wish I lived in Norway atm to see http://www.operaen.no/en/Performances/S ... era-Choir/

It is already sold out but woulda been willing to fly to catch it. It would be a once in my life time moment I feel just like BTH. Magic.

And I really dig the most pop song on the album as well being a big Danzig/Gothic metal fan. "Phoenix" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhJ2XyzmPI

Give it a spin if it remains up. It isn't Satyr (Was Sivert Høyem) singing but love it none the less.


Spent a good share of today listening to Satyricon's discography, a couple of the new songs from the new album that are up (Phoenix that you linked and another - Our World, It Rumbles Tonight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDPXZwPtfFg ). The new album is supposed to be on iTunes as of today, but it is still showing as a "pre-order" - I went ahead and pre-ordered it ($9.99) even though I haven't bought any music since I started subscribing to Spotify (mobile version) in January. I love Satyricon (one of my favorite bands - somewhere in my top 10-20) - so I figured I'd give 'em my money rather than wait to see if the new one shows up on Spotify. ;)

Anyway - that song Phoenix is excellent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6PiB4O1tzM - cool they (well, Satyr actually, since he is the primary songwriter) is trying new things with the guest clean vocalist and different vibe. I don't think Sivert's voice is particularly strong and the song might have been even better with a stronger, more distinctive clean voice, but I'll take it nonetheless - excellent. The Our World song is very good, even though it sounds very much like Black Crow on a Tombstone in parts. Very excited to hear the whole thing and SUPER EXCITED that according to one of the interviews linked below (forget who said it - Satyr or Frost), Satyricon will be doing massive worldwide touring in support of the new album - even perhaps TWO North American tours - woohoooo - I'm there!

Interview with Satyr (August 2013) where he talks about the new album, but also reflects on the first Satyricon album, Dark Medieval Time, that he wrote at age 17 ( :shock: !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtItb6FJWbo :cool:

Interview with Frost (March 2013): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NuEk3CYZrA :cool:

And my god....I agree with you - I would I have LOVED to have been at that gig at the Opera House in Oslo!! (that's the place I saw Ulver in 2010 and is one fantastic work of architecture & perfect sound - what a setting)

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by soundcurve » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:02 am

I plan on taking a trip to Norway next year. Changed jobs so need to build up vacation and what not. Would be a waste to only go for only a week. Regarding Satyricon, yea I really like the new album. That and the new Carcass are high up in album of the year.

New Inquisition is going to be released soon so they might be AOTY material as well. Samples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLZQZaVNi0g
And the song "Darkness Flows Through the Uneven Horizon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q98qulfxXcs

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I listened to Immortal's All Shall Fall a few months ago and it was alright. Anyone who is a big of them what albums do you recommend?
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by mooyagi » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:57 pm

Disco wrote:I listened to Immortal's All Shall Fall a few months ago and it was alright. Anyone who is a big of them what albums do you recommend?


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