Hockeyagi!! - 2011/2012 race for the cup!!

[mooyagi]

What are the average prices for NHL regular season games? I guess they vary from team to team but there shouldn't be much difference. I was looking at 2012/2013 schedule but at the time I was checking buying tickets wasn't an option yet.

It varies a lot by team. Our tickets for the Coyotes are in the upper level between the red line and center ice and they are about $40 per game. Single tickets aren't on sale yet so I'm not sure how much the tickets will be normally as I assume we get a discount for the package. The price has gone up. Those same seats in Boston probably run around $75 at least. Wouldn't be surprised if it is $100.

[KDibildeaux]

What are the average prices for NHL regular season games? I guess they vary from team to team but there shouldn't be much difference. I was looking at 2012/2013 schedule but at the time I was checking buying tickets wasn't an option yet.

Come to a Phoenix game, Nux!

[NuuX]

Come to a Phoenix game, Nux!

I would if your guys were playing Kings or Penguins!!!

[mooyagi]

Come to a Phoenix game, Nux!

I would if your guys were playing Kings or Penguins!!!

Kings on Thursday Dec 27
Penguins on Sat Jan 12
Kings on Sat Jan 19
Kings on Tues Apr 2

[KDibildeaux]

Come to a Phoenix game, Nux!

I would if your guys were playing Kings or Penguins!!!

Kings suck!

yes yes, I know the won the cup, but they still suck

[NuuX]

Come to a Phoenix game, Nux!

I would if your guys were playing Kings or Penguins!!!

Kings on Thursday Dec 27
Penguins on Sat Jan 12
Kings on Sat Jan 19
Kings on Tues Apr 2

Nowhere near USA when those matches occur

[mooyagi]

Nowhere near USA when those matches occur

Go to a Bruins game. Wear a Habs sweater I swear, they'll treat you real nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hobdPc7jnfk

[mooyagi]

If any of you hockey folks want to do a pick 'em game for the upcoming NFL season, Rob and I started a 70K group: http://70000tons.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2744

Should work with your ESPN/TSN accounts.

[Michael D.]

For you Hockey fans.
Watch this film if you can. It had run on PBS and it is on video.
Really worth the watch and says a lot.
http://www.pondhockeymovie.com/trailer.html

[KDibildeaux]

So apparently the Canucks offered Doan $28M for 4 years

[ShoreSlayer]

So apparently the Canucks offered Doan $28M for 4 years

And what was his response? I haven't been following anything lately

[mooyagi]

So apparently the Canucks offered Doan $28M for 4 years

And what was his response? I haven't been following anything lately

No response yet. He's still weighing his options (waiting for the Jamison deal to be finalized, which could be waiting on the CBA). A few teams have offered him contracts but he's still playing the waiting game. Buffalo offered even more than Van did so now Sabres fans are convinced he's going to Buffalo.

[KDibildeaux]

So apparently the Canucks offered Doan $28M for 4 years

And what was his response? I haven't been following anything lately

No response yet. He's still weighing his options (waiting for the Jamison deal to be finalized, which could be waiting on the CBA). A few teams have offered him contracts but he's still playing the waiting game. Buffalo offered even more than Van did so now Sabres fans are convinced he's going to Buffalo.

Pretty much. Doan has kept pretty mum this whole time.

[mooyagi]

Doan's agent has indicated an actual deadline for Phoenix now: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/articles/20120823cba-dealings-add-new-wrinkle-phoenix-coyotes-shane-doan-equation.html

He wants a deal before the new CBA (or the lockout) comes.

[EvilDan]

Probably not the place for it, but I loved the movie "Goon". And I can no longer let something as significant as "69" days until the election go without comment. Why? "Because it's hilarious."

[mooyagi]

Probably not the place for it, but I loved the movie "Goon". And I can no longer let something as significant as "69" days until the election go without comment. Why? "Because it's hilarious."

Kate and I watched Goon not long ago. I didn't really like it. Not sure if it was the acting, the script, the storytelling, but it just didn't appeal to me even though we watched the whole thing. Wouldn't watch it again. It is funny and fitting that the guy who the movie is based on spent some time teaching Bruins players how to defend themselves

[KDibildeaux]

Probably not the place for it, but I loved the movie "Goon". And I can no longer let something as significant as "69" days until the election go without comment. Why? "Because it's hilarious."

Hah, I didn't love the movie but it did have some parts that made me laugh.

So Greg Jamison (guy who is trying to buy the Yotes) was on a news show today and said he's ready to move forward with the deal and buy the team, but now the City of Glendale has decided to make some changes in the arena deal. will this ever end?

[mooyagi]

Fucking Glendale That damn city is ruining everything.

[EvilDan]

Okay, so yes, I overstated my love for the movie, but for some reason that scene is so silly, it still makes me laugh.

I can definitely understand why many people don't care for the movie.

[mooyagi]

Fucking NHL and NHLPA. Who's ready for the lockout? No further talks scheduled at this point.

[KDibildeaux]

Fucking NHL and NHLPA. Who's ready for the lockout? No further talks scheduled at this point.

Ugh! I picked quite the year to get into hockey, what with ownership issues, possibly losing our captain and now a possible lockout

[KDibildeaux]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404736

Good to see someone give props to my team for once instead of wishing for it to disappear

[mooyagi]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404736

Good to see someone give props to my team for once instead of wishing for it to disappear

Link to full article: http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings

[ShoreSlayer]

No clue how Vancouver could be ranked beneath Ottawa and, even more so, Winnipeg. Can't say I'm gonna put a lot of stock in their rating system although I'm sure many of their picks are a better reflection of it's accuracy than this particular one (and my personal feeling about it lol).

[mooyagi]

No clue how Vancouver could be ranked beneath Ottawa and, even more so, Winnipeg. Can't say I'm gonna put a lot of stock in their rating system although I'm sure many of their picks are a better reflection of it's accuracy than this particular one (and my personal feeling about it lol).

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised by a lot of the ratings. I think they put way too much emphasis on ticket prices and bang for the buck. I would think the best teams are the ones with top notch ownership, rabid fanbases, winning traditions and good fan relations. Rabid fanbases create a market for high ticket prices.

[shaneos]

No clue how Vancouver could be ranked beneath Ottawa and, even more so, Winnipeg. Can't say I'm gonna put a lot of stock in their rating system although I'm sure many of their picks are a better reflection of it's accuracy than this particular one (and my personal feeling about it lol).

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised by a lot of the ratings. I think they put way too much emphasis on ticket prices and bang for the buck. I would think the best teams are the ones with top notch ownership, rabid fanbases, winning traditions and good fan relations. Rabid fanbases create a market for high ticket prices.

I'd like to know where they got the beer prices in the Preds rating. $6.75, for cat's piss maybe, anything decent is more $8 - 9.

[shaneos]

Doan signs 4 year, $21 mill contract with Phoenix. There's a $2 mill signing bonus in there as well. I'm assuming the players keep the signing bonus if a lockout occurs?

[KDibildeaux]

Doan signs 4 year, $21 mill contract with Phoenix. There's a $2 mill signing bonus in there as well. I'm assuming the players keep the signing bonus if a lockout occurs?

Damn, you beat me to it. Couldn't post from work. Oh I'm so happy our Captain chose to stay! Such a stand up, loyal guy. Ahhhhhhh I'm so glad my days of compulsively googling the name Shane Doan to see if he'd signed anywhere are over.

[mooyagi]

Doan signs 4 year, $21 mill contract with Phoenix. There's a $2 mill signing bonus in there as well. I'm assuming the players keep the signing bonus if a lockout occurs?

Damn, you beat me to it. Couldn't post from work. Oh I'm so happy our Captain chose to stay! Such a stand up, loyal guy. Ahhhhhhh I'm so glad my days of compulsively googling the name Shane Doan to see if he'd signed anywhere are over.

Definitely gives you confidence that the latest issue between Jamison and City of Glendale (I hate that city) should be worked out as well. If Shane thought it was going to fall through, he possibly would have signed with Vancouver instead. Yay!

[ShoreSlayer]

Doan signs 4 year, $21 mill contract with Phoenix. There's a $2 mill signing bonus in there as well. I'm assuming the players keep the signing bonus if a lockout occurs?

Damn, you beat me to it. Couldn't post from work. Oh I'm so happy our Captain chose to stay! Such a stand up, loyal guy. Ahhhhhhh I'm so glad my days of compulsively googling the name Shane Doan to see if he'd signed anywhere are over.

Definitely gives you confidence that the latest issue between Jamison and City of Glendale (I hate that city) should be worked out as well. If Shane thought it was going to fall through, he possibly would have signed with Vancouver instead. Yay!

Now the 2 sides just gotta find a way to get their shit together without killing the entire season so Doan can lace 'em up and start earning it and the rest of us can get back to enjoying the game.

[KDibildeaux]

Exactly!

[mooyagi]

Now the 2 sides just gotta find a way to get their shit together without killing the entire season so Doan can lace 'em up and start earning it and the rest of us can get back to enjoying the game.

I'm not optimistic about that

[ShoreSlayer]

Now the 2 sides just gotta find a way to get their shit together without killing the entire season so Doan can lace 'em up and start earning it and the rest of us can get back to enjoying the game.

I'm not optimistic about that

I actually prefer missing 'part' of a season as it's too damn long to begin with imho but I hate when they can't get their shit together and end up scrapping entire seasons. Especially since it seems to be becoming more and more of a regular occurrence

[mooyagi]

Now the 2 sides just gotta find a way to get their shit together without killing the entire season so Doan can lace 'em up and start earning it and the rest of us can get back to enjoying the game.

I'm not optimistic about that

I actually prefer missing 'part' of a season as it's too damn long to begin with imho but I hate when they can't get their shit together and end up scrapping entire seasons. Especially since it seems to be becoming more and more of a regular occurrence

Most of what I've read indicates that the writers tend to think the season will start sometime in January. If they try to squeeze in a condensed season like the NBA did after its lockout, the product will suffer (NBA had a distinct lack of quality for much of the season due to the missed time). Another cancelled season would just be awful. Losing part of the preseason wouldn't be too bad, though the first few weeks will have some rusty play. Don't want to miss too much time. We have tickets for a lot of games!

[KDibildeaux]

I'm just hoping we just miss the preseason games

[shaneos]

Last lockout in 04-05 the two sides didn't even meet for over 3 months after the lockout started. That would be fucking stupid imho.

[mooyagi]

Out of nowhere, the Bruins extended Lucic before the Lockout! $6mil per year is a lot for him though. I don't think they're going to have a very good cap situation over the next couple of years but I've got faith in the front office.

That locks up their young core of forwards, Lucic, Seguin and Marchand.

[EvilDan]

Is it just me, or is it extremely strange to see so many signings just before the lockout?

I was trying to figure it out from an owner's perspective, but I tend to have different theories on team management than most. (What are the odds?)

[mooyagi]

Is it just me, or is it extremely strange to see so many signings just before the lockout?

I was trying to figure it out from an owner's perspective, but I tend to have different theories on team management than most. (What are the odds?)

Kinda hard to cry about the previous CBA with all the signings the owners squeezed in before the lockout. They seemed to have no problem giving players their contracts under it. It's good for the players if new restrictions come in the next one, whenever the hell they finally agree to something. I just hope no games are missed. The lockout actually helps the Coyotes a little bit. We met with some fans today and we all agree that the lockout actually buys the City of Glendale and the Greg Jamison group more time to rework their arena deal and then for the Jamison group to close the ownership deal with the league. We also found out what they were hoping to rework and I feel less animosity towards the city, though I'm still not happy about their timing.

[shaneos]

So Malkin and Gonchar have signed with the KHL for this season. There are rumors of quite a number of other players with tentative agreements with Euro clubs as well. Losing the league MVP for this year is not good pr for the NHL. I just hope if there is a season it's not an episode of "The Replacements". Malkin signed for 65% of his salary.