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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:21 pm

    I've been getting the itch to move somewhere in Europe
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    by Ravenlord » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:24 pm

    You should go to Ireland, it's full of rain. Don't worry, I won't be there :D
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    Re: Bucket Lists

    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:28 pm

    Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.
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    by Ravenlord » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:39 pm

    I tricked you! There's no such thing as Ireland :lol:
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    by last_candle » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:39 pm

    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.

    I'd suggest Switzerland ;)
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    Re: Bucket Lists

    by Ravenlord » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:41 pm

    last_candle wrote:
    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.

    I'd suggest Switzerland ;)


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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:44 pm

    Ravenlord wrote:I tricked you! There's no such thing as Ireland :lol:

    huh? then where was my brother for two years? :lol:

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    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.

    I'd suggest Switzerland ;)


    +1

    Hm.... hadn't thought of this option :D
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    by Ravenlord » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:00 pm

    He has Creep Machine in his blood, he could have been anywhere.

    And seriously, Switzerland is a beautiful but expensive country. Would highly recommend it.
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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:10 pm

    he was in Cork :D

    Well, it will all depend on if I can find a job anywhere.
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    Re: Bucket Lists

    by KevinP » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:28 pm

    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.


    Germany please. I already have peeps in Holland, so I'm looking to expand my "free room and board in Europe" options. :mrgreen:
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    by viathyn » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:33 pm

    KDibildox wrote:he was in Cork :D

    Well, it will all depend on if I can find a job anywhere.


    Ah, making wine...

    preparing the corks.......


    By soaking them....



    I guess you could say Brother Dibildox is a real Cork Soaker.





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    by Ravenlord » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 pm

    ^^ try harder
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    by viathyn » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:34 pm

    :| :cry:
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    by AlaskaRachel » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:37 pm

    :P
    viathyn wrote:
    KDibildox wrote:he was in Cork :D

    Well, it will all depend on if I can find a job anywhere.


    Ah, making wine...

    preparing the corks.......


    By soaking them....



    I guess you could say Brother Dibildox is a real Cork Soaker.





    :oops: :lol:

    :lol: that doesn't even get a full lol, just a l. Nice try though
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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:39 pm

    KevinP wrote:
    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.


    Germany please. I already have peeps in Holland, so I'm looking to expand my "free room and board in Europe" options. :mrgreen:

    I do think Germany may be the most probably, since I was taking German lessons and picking it up pretty well. I have forgotten most of it now, but I think it would be the easiest for me to learn. Though Holland gets my attention more. Either way, I have a friend I work with in GE checking for positions :D. He said there are 18 in those 4 countries.

    viathyn wrote:I guess you could say Brother Dibildox is a real Cork Soaker.
    :oops: :lol:

    Well, who knows what Patrick was up to while being there, hehehe, but I'll ask him on your behalf.
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    by viathyn » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:40 pm

    AlaskaRachel wrote::P
    :lol: that doesn't even get a full lol, just a l. Nice try though
    Well, in my defense, I knew that one was pretty hard-pressed as soon as I typed it.






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    by viathyn » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:41 pm

    KDibildox wrote:
    viathyn wrote:I guess you could say Brother Dibildox is a real Cork Soaker.
    :oops: :lol:

    Well, who knows what Patrick was up to while being there, hehehe, but I'll ask him on your behalf.

    Actually, don't. haha. Is he a strong guy? :?
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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:49 pm

    This is him

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    by AlaskaRachel » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:16 pm

    viathyn wrote:
    AlaskaRachel wrote::P
    :lol: that doesn't even get a full lol, just a l. Nice try though
    Well, in my defense, I knew that one was pretty hard-pressed as soon as I typed it.






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    by DrinkMoxie » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:35 pm

    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.


    it was my experience that the British do not speak English...
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    by mooyagi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:48 pm

    AlaskaRachel wrote:Most of my bucket list consists of trips around the world: Finland, Norway, Sweden, France, Russia, Antarctica (seriously), Hawaii, Australia, China, and Iceland are all the ones I can think of right now.
    The biggest one: move out of the US.


    Me too! So sick of the US right now. I also want to go to Antarctica. Was actually mentioning that to Marlo last night.

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    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.


    it was my experience that the British do not speak English...


    :lol: I had that same problem in the UK. The whole trip I was thinking "I know they speak English but I have no idea what anyone is saying right now :? "
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    by ShoreSlayer » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:06 pm

    viathyn wrote:... a real Cork Soaker.

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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:25 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    KDibildox wrote:Well I was thinking more along the likes of Finland, Norway, Holland or Germany. I don't want to go to any country that has English or Spanish as a language, since I want the challenge of having to learn a new language. Though Ireland would be nice to visit, my brother was there for two years.


    it was my experience that the British do not speak English...


    :lol: I had that same problem in the UK. The whole trip I was thinking "I know they speak English but I have no idea what anyone is saying right now :? "

    haha, I have that issue with people from Liverpool, specifically
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    by mooyagi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:26 pm

    KDibildox wrote:
    mooyagi wrote: :lol: I had that same problem in the UK. The whole trip I was thinking "I know they speak English but I have no idea what anyone is saying right now :? "

    haha, I have that issue with people from Liverpool, specifically


    :lol: Camped next to a group from Liverpool at Wacken. Yeah, they were pretty tough to understand.
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    by viathyn » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:29 pm

    ShoreSlayer wrote:
    viathyn wrote:... a real Cork Soaker.

    Classic SNL!

    I like-a da daarrrk cork.


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    by mooyagi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:30 pm

    gnoff wrote:Germany would probably work better if your main purpose is to actually learn a new language fairly fast.


    Nah, from two trips in Germany it's kinda frustrating. Every time I hesitated or said something incorrectly the conversation immediately switched to English. Would've rather gotten a nice correction and continued in German. In the end the people are just trying to help with the conversation but it is a bit annoying.
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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:33 pm

    I do want to see Sweden, next time around, since I saw both Norway and Finland last time. FInland has a more personal reason, since I have friends there, and also in Norway I have one, who is kind of the male me, so we have fun together (haha that sounded pretty narcissistic). Norway was the most beautiful country (imo) of the ones I saw, but man it was freaking expensive :shock:
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    by mooyagi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:35 pm

    :shock: There's a male version of you? Can't even imagine the level of creepiness there
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    by mooyagi » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:40 pm

    gnoff wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:
    gnoff wrote:Germany would probably work better if your main purpose is to actually learn a new language fairly fast.


    Nah, from two trips in Germany it's kinda frustrating. Every time I hesitated or said something incorrectly the conversation immediately switched to English. Would've rather gotten a nice correction and continued in German. In the end the people are just trying to help with the conversation but it is a bit annoying.



    Really?
    I've been to Germany loads of times, and never had anyone switch to English, even when thery were totally clueless to what I was trying to say :lol:


    Very interesting. I've always had them switch to English.
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    by KDibildeaux » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:42 pm

    mooyagi wrote::shock: There's a male version of you? Can't even imagine the level of creepiness there

    haha yes, well I have a year's head start on him. We just always seem to say the same thing, at the same time. We don't delve into the creepy that often :lol:
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    by MadameLePink » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:14 am

    gnoff wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:
    gnoff wrote:Germany would probably work better if your main purpose is to actually learn a new language fairly fast.


    Nah, from two trips in Germany it's kinda frustrating. Every time I hesitated or said something incorrectly the conversation immediately switched to English. Would've rather gotten a nice correction and continued in German. In the end the people are just trying to help with the conversation but it is a bit annoying.



    Really?
    I've been to Germany loads of times, and never had anyone switch to English, even when thery were totally clueless to what I was trying to say :lol:


    I think Germans are improving. When I went there for festivals 8-10 years ago, it was impossible to find anyone who could speak English, not even the people arranging the festivals (and I am talking of big international festivals). But the last couple of years I haven't had any problems whatsoever - except this year at the ticket office in the central station in Leipzig, but fortunately I had a friend with me who could speak German.

    Actually I've had more problems in Finland this year than in Germany. I didn't find a single bus driver who could understand "two tickets, please" :?
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    by Laura » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:53 am

    MadameLePink wrote:
    Laura wrote:After seeing MadameLePink's FB pix of the Wave-Gotik-Treffen Festival in Leipzig (had never heard of it before)....I have since added it to my bucket list - may even scrap my Metalcamp plans for next summer to go there instead! :D I would totally get into dressing up in some really fabulous & fun outfits/costumes for it - google image the fest and you'll see what I mean.... :beerwink: :D
    http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/english/


    It would be great to see you there! :cheers:


    Yes!!! And it will be nice to know people going! I've been looking into this fest a bit more - so amazing!!! and at this moment, I'm gonna say there is a 95% chance I will do this in 2012. The web site now has the 2012 dates - May 25-28, 2012. Also since it started in 1992 - it will be the 20th anniversary which will make my third 20th anniversary fest. I like the way wikipedia describes the fest:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-Gotik-Treffen
    Wave-Gotik-Treffen (ger. das Treffen means "the meeting") is an annual world festival for "dark" music and arts in Leipzig, Germany. 150+ bands and artists from various backgrounds (Gothic rock, EBM, Industrial, Noise, Darkwave, Neofolk, Neoclassical, Medieval Music, Experimental, Gothic metal, Deathrock and Punk being examples) play at several venues throughout the city over 4 days on Whitsuntide. The festival also features several fairs with medieval, gothic and cultural merchandise.

    With 18,000 to 20,000 regular attendants, the WGT is one of the largest events of the Goth-, Cybergoth-, and Rivethead- subcultures worldwide.


    I have more than enough connection (past & present) to many of these music genres & "subcultures" to know I would love this fest. Gotta work on adding to my wardrobe though. ;)
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    by mooyagi » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:26 am

    MadameLePink wrote:
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    mooyagi wrote:Nah, from two trips in Germany it's kinda frustrating. Every time I hesitated or said something incorrectly the conversation immediately switched to English. Would've rather gotten a nice correction and continued in German. In the end the people are just trying to help with the conversation but it is a bit annoying.



    Really?
    I've been to Germany loads of times, and never had anyone switch to English, even when thery were totally clueless to what I was trying to say :lol:


    I think Germans are improving. When I went there for festivals 8-10 years ago, it was impossible to find anyone who could speak English, not even the people arranging the festivals (and I am talking of big international festivals). But the last couple of years I haven't had any problems whatsoever - except this year at the ticket office in the central station in Leipzig, but fortunately I had a friend with me who could speak German.

    Actually I've had more problems in Finland this year than in Germany. I didn't find a single bus driver who could understand "two tickets, please" :?


    The only people in Germany that didn't speak English were a couple bus drivers, Wacken security (made for some funny moments), the odd doner kebap stand (Yum!) And the cop in Munich that thought I was a drug smuggler from Amsterdam. :lol: That was a fun conversation.

    Wasn't too much of a problem for me but I'm sure my friends were annoyed since I was the laziest translator ever :P
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    by MadameLePink » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:37 am

    Laura wrote:Yes!!! And it will be nice to know people going! I've been looking into this fest a bit more - so amazing!!! and at this moment, I'm gonna say there is a 95% chance I will do this in 2012. The web site now has the 2012 dates - May 25-28, 2012. Also since it started in 1992 - it will be the 20th anniversary which will make my third 20th anniversary fest. I like the way wikipedia describes the fest:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-Gotik-Treffen
    Wave-Gotik-Treffen (ger. das Treffen means "the meeting") is an annual world festival for "dark" music and arts in Leipzig, Germany. 150+ bands and artists from various backgrounds (Gothic rock, EBM, Industrial, Noise, Darkwave, Neofolk, Neoclassical, Medieval Music, Experimental, Gothic metal, Deathrock and Punk being examples) play at several venues throughout the city over 4 days on Whitsuntide. The festival also features several fairs with medieval, gothic and cultural merchandise.

    With 18,000 to 20,000 regular attendants, the WGT is one of the largest events of the Goth-, Cybergoth-, and Rivethead- subcultures worldwide.


    I have more than enough connection (past & present) to many of these music genres & "subcultures" to know I would love this fest. Gotta work on adding to my wardrobe though. ;)


    Actually it was the 20th anniversary this year and they had 280 bands instead of the usual 175 :) There is also a group called Americans in Leipzig that usually meet up every year, if you want to get in touch with people from your part of the world going. We will be going and you are welcome to tag along anytime you want. We have quite a few friends that go every year and that we only see there even if we live in the same city! It's always a big party and there's so much to do and see :D

    Btw I suggest that you book your hotel during the summer already (you can always cancel if you don't go) because the good cheap rooms go very quickly, there are lots of regulars and they book their room as soon as they get home from the festival. We usually stay at Novotel which is just in front of the station and very close to many of the clubs and smaller venues. This year we stayed at Penta hotel though, which was really good and still very close to everything and many metal bands were staying there as well :mrgreen: I think we'll try to book there again.

    Another cool thing to do is to arrive one or two days before the festival and just experience the town fill up with people in black. There's a very special atmosphere that you don't find at any other festival :)
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    by MadameLePink » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:40 am

    mooyagi wrote:
    And the cop in Munich that thought I was a drug smuggler from Amsterdam. :lol: That was a fun conversation.


    I would have loved to listen to that conversation :lol:
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    by Laura » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:25 am

    Thanks so much for the info/advice about the fest Laura! I know what you mean about booking hotels early - did that both times for WOA - unfortunately, I'm spending a small fortune :evil: on my hotel in Bergen but I'm rationalizing it since I've gotten such great deals on hotels over the years - that I feel it kinda evens out. I looked at expedia for flights and they only list through mid-May so far, but around then Chicago-Leipzig is approx. $1150 rt - not bad. I definitely would consider going to Berlin as well since it is one of my VERY favorite cities (was there twice for a about a week each) and I haven't been there since the wall came down! I will be doing this trip alone (love the total freedom travelling/doing things alone affords me), but do enjoy meeting up with people I know of before (say from online) as well. Otherwise, if I don't know people when I go somewhere, I'll start up a conversation with just about anyone (if I feel like talking) - I have met the most amazing people that way. My favorite person I met/talked to in Oslo last summer was a Norwegian photographer/adventurer named Tom Hatlestad - too much to go into for now ...but here are his sites....a truly extraordinary person! http://www.tomhatlestad.com and http://www.freedomtrack.no (the exhibit of his I saw)
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    by MadameLePink » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:40 am

    Laura wrote:Thanks so much for the info/advice about the fest Laura! I know what you mean about booking hotels early - did that both times for WOA - unfortunately, I'm spending a small fortune :evil: on my hotel in Bergen but I'm rationalizing it since I've gotten such great deals on hotels over the years - that I feel it kinda evens out. I looked at expedia for flights and they only list through mid-May so far, but around then Chicago-Leipzig is approx. $1150 rt - not bad. I definitely would consider going to Berlin as well since it is one of my VERY favorite cities (was there twice for a about a week each) and I haven't been there since the wall came down! I will be doing this trip alone (love the total freedom travelling/doing things alone affords me), but do enjoy meeting up with people I know of before (say from online) as well. Otherwise, if I don't know people when I go somewhere, I'll start up a conversation with just about anyone (if I feel like talking) - I have met the most amazing people that way. My favorite person I met/talked to in Oslo last summer was a Norwegian photographer/adventurer named Tom Hatlestad - too much to go into for now ...but here are his sites....a truly extraordinary person! http://www.tomhatlestad.com and http://www.freedomtrack.no (the exhibit of his I saw)


    It might be cheaper for you to fly to Berlin and then take the train to Leipzig from there (that's what we usually do), as it only takes one hour, and you get an excuse to stay in Berlin a few days as well :)

    I wish I was like you! I've travelled alone and I've been to lots of concerts and a single Wacken alone, but I am too shy to start a conversation with strangers unless I have been drinking :cry:

    I'll check out those sites ;)
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    by Laura » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:02 am

    ^^^ d'oh! I didn't realize Leipzig is so close to Berlin - will def do a rt Chicago-Berlin! Re: your comment about being shy - I was very shy as a little girl - but grew out of it I guess - and now at least a few hours of my work day is talking with total strangers, so I guess I'm used to it. ;)
    More on Tom Hatlestad....I saw an incredible photo exhibit (Tracing Freedom) in the plaza in front of the Nobel Peace Center....I was so engrossed in the photos of the people and what they said about "freedom" that at first I didn't even notice this guy and his Land Rover nearby. When I realized he must be the photographer - I had to talk to him....about his adventure driving from Norway to Bangladesh photographing and talking to all these people along the way - really amazing!
    Here's more from one of the sites and picture I took of him by the exhibit.

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    From his site http://www.freedomtrack.no/about-freedomtrack/
    Tracing Freedom is an ongoing photographic documentation project that aims to explore the concept of freedom.
    By compiling and sharing a globally diverse collection of freedom definitions, we hope to encourage people to reflect upon the freedom they experience in their own lives, countries and neighbourhoods. Ultimately, we want to inspire a more open-minded and generous spirit of acceptance of other people’s attitudes.
    In late 2008 and early 2009 I spent four months driving overland between Norway and Bangladesh. Along the way, I photographed a hundred people and asked them to define freedom. Twenty of them will be exhibited at the Førde Folk Music Festival in July. A larger exhibition will be opened in August outside the Oslo City Hall, in cooperation with the Nobel Peace Center.

    I had begun dreaming of making an exhibition of photos and statements on perceptions of freedom after hearing that the theme for the 2009 Chobi Mela international festival of photography, in Bangladesh, would be ‘Freedom’.

    Freedom of movement
    I have always loved to travel freely, and have visited some 50 countries to date. As a Norwegian citizen, I am also privileged in being able to travel to most places without problems.

    However, freedom of movement is actually less now than it was 50 years ago, mostly due to international politics and tension. With closed borders in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Burma making the northern and southern routes impassable, I drove the only remaining overland route between Norway and Bangladesh: Sweden, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Nepal and India.

    Freedom of thought
    Driving ten hours daily for 102 days evokes a type of meditative state and a sense of freedom from domestic concerns. My Land Rover was not only a rolling studio with its own photo backdrop, but also a canvas for exploring my personal challenges on route. From its safety, I could differentiate real external barriers from those which were mostly in my head.

    Sometimes my own fixed ideas became real obstacles to my freedom; other times the visual and sensual impressions flowed together to create dream-like landscapes… traces of ancient civilisations as I drove into the desert from Iran heading towards Pakistan… misty mornings in India and Bangladesh that resembled a Fellini movie.

    Freedom to congregate
    I talked to people from around 30 different countries and from all walks of life and social standings. They include the head of the Lithuanian National Opera and Ballet, a world renowned violin maker, a Nobel Peace laureate, authors, activists and illiterates.

    But it wasn’t easy to meet people of different ages, genders and nationalities – in some countries women just aren’t allowed to talk to strangers, in others my passport was confiscated and I had to follow a military escort.

    Defining freedom
    On route, I amended my initial definition of freedom from “absence of force” to “absence of force imposed physically or mentally – by myself or others.” It’s a definition which also implies not imposing force on other people.
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    by KDibildeaux » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:56 am

    mooyagi wrote:The only people in Germany that didn't speak English were a couple bus drivers, Wacken security (made for some funny moments), the odd doner kebap stand (Yum!) And the cop in Munich that thought I was a drug smuggler from Amsterdam. :lol: That was a fun conversation.

    Wasn't too much of a problem for me but I'm sure my friends were annoyed since I was the laziest translator ever :P

    With me the issue was we stayed with my ex's Grandparents who spoke no English, and my German wasn't that great and Ralf kept "forgetting" to translate
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