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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Ravenlord » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:39 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    AlaskaRachel wrote:Nah they probably have it set to update a few of these at once. At my work, we update twitter and it automatically updates our facebook and website and news feed. Pretty easy to set up.

    I think you give them far too much credit :P

    The website is really rudimentary, and other factors lead me to believe that their web development and administration skills are pretty basic. Also the wording of announcements usually are different from one medium to the next, leading me to believe they aren't automated. Hence why I think it would be a little time consuming :P


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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by AlaskaRachel » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:40 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    AlaskaRachel wrote:Nah they probably have it set to update a few of these at once. At my work, we update twitter and it automatically updates our facebook and website and news feed. Pretty easy to set up.

    I think you give them far too much credit :P

    The website is really rudimentary, and other factors lead me to believe that their web development and administration skills are pretty basic. Also the wording of announcements usually are different from one medium to the next, leading me to believe they aren't automated. Hence why I think it would be a little time consuming :P

    Thats so silly haha Its so easy to set up!
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    by last_candle » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:49 pm

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Tyr » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:36 pm

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    Ravenlord wrote:What have I done?... :lol:


    The same thing WHISKEY did to your country.

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Ecliptica » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:42 pm

    This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.
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    by Michael D. » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:31 pm

    KevinP wrote:It's been done. My temporary moment of insanity is over. I blame the Irish :oops: :lol: :oops:


    You are and were so EVIL today. :twisted: :cool:
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    by cowboy71 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:59 pm

    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.

    *sigh* still no sign of Andy online since last Monday. What the FUCK is he up to? :roll: :cry:
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by KevinP » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:10 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.

    *sigh* still no sign of Andy online since last Monday. What the FUCK is he up to? :roll: :cry:



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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Monmisreal » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:11 pm

    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.


    haha at least you didnt log on hoping for an announcement only to find out a band dropped off. Not terribly upset but eh
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    by cowboy71 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:13 pm

    KevinP wrote:
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    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.

    *sigh* still no sign of Andy online since last Monday. What the FUCK is he up to? :roll: :cry:



    If I told you he was trying to find Within Temptation , would you calm down ? :mrgreen:

    YES! Cannot see that happening though :P I'm sure they would have been an early announcement if it was going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they were asked and said no.
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Mindcrime » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:18 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.

    *sigh* still no sign of Andy online since last Monday. What the FUCK is he up to? :roll: :cry:
    Very Disapointing on the announcement front and also on the lack of the on line check in email which has been promised and promised and every "deadline" for that has passed. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by KevinP » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:32 pm

    My guess for next band: Dusk Machine 2.0
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Monmisreal » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:38 pm

    KevinP wrote:My guess for next band: Dusk Machine 2.0


    That was such a fail super-group announcement in my books so im hoping not
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    by cowboy71 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:42 pm

    Mindcrime wrote:Very Disapointing on the announcement front and also on the lack of the on line check in email which has been promised and promised and every "deadline" for that has passed. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!

    Yeah look I'm fairly laid back, and I am willing to cut them some slack.

    As others have mentioned, after all our bitching and moaning about the lack of announcements etc last year, 2011 exceeded expectations in every way imaginable. It was motherfucking EPIC, and I know this year will be no different.

    But, people are very very soon going to start making their way to the US in preparation for this. There is enough process involved in travelling to another country without also having to stress about boarding passes not being sent yet.

    We had our 2011 passes two weeks beforehand last year, and they were "delayed" due to the whole free upgrade thing that happened xmas 2010.

    I have all our other documentation prepared - longterm parking confirmation for our car here at brisbane airport, hotel confirmations for LA and Miami, flight informations, nightwish concert tix for LA, 70000 tons booking confirmation email, US Visa Waiver. The only thing I do NOT have is the boarding pass. Would love to have that so I can make copies of all the doco, and know that its all taken care of.

    I would HATE to be in a situation where I had to use my limited time and resources to sort it out if I didn't get my email until after I was in the US!
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Sinister Realm » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:49 pm

    I'm honestly not expecting anything major for the final announcments...any heavy weight band would have been booked way in advance and probably announced earlier on to attract more ticket sales...but then again this is UMC and they seem to play by their own rules so who really knows...just announce the bloody bands already!!
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    by Monmisreal » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:51 pm

    Sinister Realm wrote:I'm honestly not expecting anything major for the final announcments...any heavy weight band would have been booked way in advance and probably announced earlier on to attract more ticket sales...but then again this is UMC and they seem to play by their own rules so who really knows...just announce the bloody bands already!!


    Yea I was thinking about that earlier today. Its too late for most people to attempt to get here from overseas if they are waiting for the last couple announcements. I guess im expecting one or two semi-decent american bands and some locals that are cheap to transport like last year.
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by metal_steve » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:44 pm

    I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.


    They would be good.

    If I told you he was trying to find Within Temptation , would you calm down ?


    That would be BRILLIANT!!!
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by metal_steve » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:48 pm

    I have all our other documentation prepared - longterm parking confirmation for our car here at brisbane airport, hotel confirmations for LA and Miami, flight informations, nightwish concert tix for LA, 70000 tons booking confirmation email, US Visa Waiver. The only thing I do NOT have is the boarding pass. Would love to have that so I can make copies of all the doco, and know that its all taken care of.

    I would HATE to be in a situation where I had to use my limited time and resources to sort it out if I didn't get my email until after I was in the US!


    Soon!!!


    No, but I'm in EXACLY the same boat as you mate. Instead of riding the coasters at Universal I'm geeking in an internet cafe waiting for an email .
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    by rnesta » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:25 pm

    Well starting my 70,000 tons of roadtrip to Miami now.my cabinmates are arriving in vegas wed then we head out fri 13th so see you bitches in FLA :heavydrink: :viking:
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    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:33 pm

    rnesta wrote:Well starting my 70,000 tons of roadtrip to Miami now.my cabinmates are arriving in vegas wed then we head out fri 13th so see you bitches in FLA :heavydrink: :viking:

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by DragonLordJones » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:40 am

    I don't even care what the final 5 bands are anymore, I want my online registration e-mail and my luggage tags :shock:
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    by metal_steve » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:25 am

    +1
    This ship needs more gothic, symphonic, female fronted bands, but I can handle some THRASH!!!

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    by Michaelage » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:27 am

    even if the last 5 bands are bands like the backstreet boys this freakin cruise will be freakin awesome for the second year!!!
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    by KevinP » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:13 am

    DragonLordJones wrote:I don't even care what the final 5 bands are anymore, I want my online registration e-mail and my luggage tags :shock:


    Luggage tags, no chance in hell they are getting those mailed out to anyone this late :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    by Dutchguy-Tim » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:39 am

    just 5 more days before we fly of to miami

    so we probally won't hear what the remaining 5 bands will be.
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    by drbrain » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:42 am

    Nine more days to fly from Madrid to Miami...
    Where are those emails??!?!!!!!!
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    by Alex Fields » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:53 am

    Sinister Realm wrote:I'm honestly not expecting anything major for the final announcments...any heavy weight band would have been booked way in advance and probably announced earlier on to attract more ticket sales...but then again this is UMC and they seem to play by their own rules so who really knows...just announce the bloody bands already!!


    seconded ... but I hope to be wrong
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    by mooyagi » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:27 am

    rnesta wrote:Well starting my 70,000 tons of roadtrip to Miami now.my cabinmates are arriving in vegas wed then we head out fri 13th so see you bitches in FLA :heavydrink: :viking:


    It begins.... :twisted:

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Ecliptica » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:42 am

    rnesta wrote:Well starting my 70,000 tons of roadtrip to Miami now.my cabinmates are arriving in vegas wed then we head out fri 13th so see you bitches in FLA :heavydrink: :viking:


    Made this drive last year. It was fucking epically awesome (mostly because I had a 70000 Tons of Metal mix I played the entire time).
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Disaster Area » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:21 am

    Ecliptica wrote:
    rnesta wrote:Well starting my 70,000 tons of roadtrip to Miami now.my cabinmates are arriving in vegas wed then we head out fri 13th so see you bitches in FLA :heavydrink: :viking:


    Made this drive last year. It was fucking epically awesome (mostly because I had a 70000 Tons of Metal mix I played the entire time).


    yeah and you promised photos of you driving I-10 in corpse paint.

    never happened...
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Ripley » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:58 am

    hi everybody,

    I noticed that a few more people are angry not getting an email, me too. This is what I just wrote to UMC
    "Hi UMC,
    still no email for check-in, not a single information when we are supposed to finally get this information. Are you aware that the cruise starts in one and half weeks? There are a lot of people who will travel much earlier to Miami for holiday reasons, what are they going to do? I am really, really disappointed. It seems that it's all about moneymaking, no real interst in the customers. If I as a travel agent would perform in such a poor way, I would have certainly lost my job already. So move your asses and take care.
    By the way still five bands have not been announced."

    It is really a pitty that there is not a single word about this procedure, no apologize or explanation. I am waiting since one year to be part of this crazy trip and now my excitment has been spoiled a lot. Uh, the only thing which cheers me up is meeting you all :heavydrink: and have a good time on the ship. (hopefully)

    Cheers Ripley

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Michael D. » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:10 am

    Ripley wrote:hi everybody,

    I noticed that a few more people are angry not getting an email, me too. This is what I just wrote to UMC
    "Hi UMC,
    still no email for check-in, not a single information when we are supposed to finally get this information. Are you aware that the cruise starts in one and half weeks? There are a lot of people who will travel much earlier to Miami for holiday reasons, what are they going to do? I am really, really disappointed. It seems that it's all about moneymaking, no real interst in the customers. If I as a travel agent would perform in such a poor way, I would have certainly lost my job already. So move your asses and take care.
    By the way still five bands have not been announced."

    It is really a pitty that there is not a single word about this procedure, no apologize or explanation. I am waiting since one year to be part of this crazy trip and now my excitment has been spoiled a lot. Uh, the only thing which cheers me up is meeting you all :heavydrink: and have a good time on the ship. (hopefully)

    Cheers Ripley

    :bangers:


    Thank you for your writting your email. I am very much like you and as there are many of us waiting for our confirmation emails. We are all at a loss to why no information is being sent by UMC. They are very behind and I am almost out of patience. :cry:
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by cycosurgeon » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:13 am

    Michael D. wrote:
    Ripley wrote:hi everybody,

    I noticed that a few more people are angry not getting an email, me too. This is what I just wrote to UMC
    "Hi UMC,
    still no email for check-in, not a single information when we are supposed to finally get this information. Are you aware that the cruise starts in one and half weeks? There are a lot of people who will travel much earlier to Miami for holiday reasons, what are they going to do? I am really, really disappointed. It seems that it's all about moneymaking, no real interst in the customers. If I as a travel agent would perform in such a poor way, I would have certainly lost my job already. So move your asses and take care.
    By the way still five bands have not been announced."

    It is really a pitty that there is not a single word about this procedure, no apologize or explanation. I am waiting since one year to be part of this crazy trip and now my excitment has been spoiled a lot. Uh, the only thing which cheers me up is meeting you all :heavydrink: and have a good time on the ship. (hopefully)

    Cheers Ripley

    :bangers:


    Thank you for your writting your email. I am very much like you and as there are many of us waiting for our confirmation emails. We are all at a loss to why no information is being sent by UMC. They are very behind and I am almost out of patience. :cry:



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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by onenight » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:27 am

    cycosurgeon wrote:
    Michael D. wrote:
    Ripley wrote:hi everybody,

    I noticed that a few more people are angry not getting an email, me too. This is what I just wrote to UMC
    "Hi UMC,
    still no email for check-in, not a single information when we are supposed to finally get this information. Are you aware that the cruise starts in one and half weeks? There are a lot of people who will travel much earlier to Miami for holiday reasons, what are they going to do? I am really, really disappointed. It seems that it's all about moneymaking, no real interst in the customers. If I as a travel agent would perform in such a poor way, I would have certainly lost my job already. So move your asses and take care.
    By the way still five bands have not been announced."

    It is really a pitty that there is not a single word about this procedure, no apologize or explanation. I am waiting since one year to be part of this crazy trip and now my excitment has been spoiled a lot. Uh, the only thing which cheers me up is meeting you all :heavydrink: and have a good time on the ship. (hopefully)

    Cheers Ripley

    :bangers:


    Thank you for your writting your email. I am very much like you and as there are many of us waiting for our confirmation emails. We are all at a loss to why no information is being sent by UMC. They are very behind and I am almost out of patience. :cry:[/quote


    I am just glad I am not the only one annoyed and or stressed cause of this stuff. Hooray! I am not insane!


    OK, for you people that are freaking out because you did'nt get an email yet. You don't need to do an online check in to board the ship. It can be done when you board. The online check in is just to speed up the process. So if you don't get an email you can still get on the boat. Having your booking conformation with you might be a good idea which you should have gotten when you booked.

    Now smoke a joint and chill... :smoking:

    Oh, and make sure you get there reeeealy early
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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by pablov8 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:32 am

    Ripley wrote:hi everybody,

    I noticed that a few more people are angry not getting an email, me too. This is what I just wrote to UMC
    "Hi UMC,
    still no email for check-in, not a single information when we are supposed to finally get this information. Are you aware that the cruise starts in one and half weeks? There are a lot of people who will travel much earlier to Miami for holiday reasons, what are they going to do? I am really, really disappointed. It seems that it's all about moneymaking, no real interst in the customers. If I as a travel agent would perform in such a poor way, I would have certainly lost my job already. So move your asses and take care.
    By the way still five bands have not been announced."

    It is really a pitty that there is not a single word about this procedure, no apologize or explanation. I am waiting since one year to be part of this crazy trip and now my excitment has been spoiled a lot. Uh, the only thing which cheers me up is meeting you all :heavydrink: and have a good time on the ship. (hopefully)

    Cheers Ripley

    :bangers:


    "Hi Ripley,

    We are happy to have you on board for 70000TONS OF METAL!

    Your Invitation for Online Check-in has not yet been issued. You should receive your Invitation for Online Check-in within the next week. For more information regarding Online Check-in, boarding times, and directions to the Port of Miami, please visit www.70000tons.com/arrival

    We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

    If you have any questions or concerns please don't hesitate to contact us any time!

    Cheers,

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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by Digimortal » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:40 am

    KevinP wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    Ecliptica wrote:This is really the first time I've logged in EXPECTING there to be an announcement and nothing has happened.

    Not concerned at all -- more anxious than anything.

    If the Kataklysm announcement taught us anything, it's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I'm pretty convinced that Symphony X will be one of the final five announced.

    *sigh* still no sign of Andy online since last Monday. What the FUCK is he up to? :roll: :cry:



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    Re: Finding A CROWBAR In The ORPHANED LAND?

    by KevinP » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:17 pm

    As long as this isn't someone elaborate ruse to get Dallas all worked up into a fever pitch, THEN spring Within Temptation on him, just to make him squirm and eat lots of crow (slathered in vegemite of course), I'm ambivalent (and past the point of getting all worked up about it).

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