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    Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by portharbor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:32 am

    Hurry up and make some kind of announcement! Some of us need to get out vacation put in!
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by metalgoddess » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:42 am

    What date did they announce it last year?
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by ShoreSlayer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:19 am

    metalgoddess wrote:What date did they announce it last year?

    Tomorrow will be one year since I joined the forum and they'd already had word out for a few months or maybe even much more at that point but I think that was quite a bit different as it was the first of it's kind and we all know how much skepticism there was about the maiden voyage. As mid-late January / early February isn't much of a peak time to compete for vacation time and it's so far away, I just told my employer I'll be taking a couple weeks somewhere around that time and they're fine with it but I understand some ppl's employers ask for more definitive plans. Hopefully we get at least a date-related announcement real soon for those folks.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Heabymetawhunta » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:29 am

    aren't there rumors about an announcement in April?
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by last_candle » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:58 am

    a date would be nice - anything else doesn't really make a difference
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by mooyagi » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:36 pm

    I would really appreciate Andy or Allison just checking in here. Something along the lines of "Hey fellow cruisers, we apologize for the lack of updates and our inability to provide a definitive announcement for 70000 Tons 2012. We are currently working through finalizing the contracts/funding/etc. and will be sure to update you when we can. Our current projection for getting the information out is <insert date here>. Again, we apologize and look forward to seeing you on broad in 2012. :cheers:"

    If something is holding up a final announcement, that's fine. I don't know what kind of effort it takes to put these things together aside from it being a massive one, but I would love to at least get some kind of update at this point.

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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Stained Class » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:14 pm

    I found out about this cruise in september of 09, and they already had the dates and at least a handful of bands announced. They could be just giving us a bit of time so that those of us that get presale will have saved up enough money to use it. Thats my theory.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by ShoreSlayer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 pm

    mooyagi wrote:I would really appreciate Andy or Allison just checking in here. Something along the lines of "Hey fellow cruisers, we apologize for the lack of updates and our inability to provide a definitive announcement for 70000 Tons 2012. We are currently working through finalizing the contracts/funding/etc. and will be sure to update you when we can. Our current projection for getting the information out is <insert date here>. Again, we apologize and look forward to seeing you on broad in 2012. :cheers:"

    If something is holding up a final announcement, that's fine. I don't know what kind of effort it takes to put these things together aside from it being a massive one, but I would love to at least get some kind of update at this point.

    Also, Happy Anniversary ShoreSlayer! :headbanger: Are we going to have a forum party to celebrate your 1 year? :party:

    Haha... thnx bro!

    As for an update announcement. sorry but UMC don't do updates. It was proven time and again last year. Appeasing our curiosity has never been on their list of priorities for some reason. For the most part, whether to squash some ppl's misunderstandings about what the term 'headliner' meant, confirm or deny any artist related rumours/concerns, answer random questions about things like running orders or even let us know if a left handed guitar would be available at the open mic night, these were not things that took any precedence over simply providing an amazing event. Unless that PR policy/perspective does a sudden 180 sometime in the not to distant future, I wouldn't hold your breath for anything other than full-on, major announcements. Not a style of representation I'm crazy about but who can argue with the results?

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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Deathbringer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:58 pm

    I don't know if this has been posted/figured out yet or not, but I just did a little research and here is what I found out...

    Allure of the Seas is the ONLY ship during the months of Jan and Feb that sails to the Caribbean that does not allow you to book it on the week of Jan 29-Feb 5. It usually sails out of Ft Lauderdale. Could this be the week?
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Deathbringer » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:03 pm

    Yikes, Allure has a capacity of 6300 people, compared to 2700 on Majesty. I surely hope not...
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Ravenlord » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:16 pm

    Deathbringer wrote:Yikes, Allure has a capacity of 6300 people, compared to 2700 on Majesty. I surely hope not...


    Not to mention that those dates would make it a 7 night cruise. :shock:
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Metalwrath » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:43 pm

    I'm frusttrated but not because of the cruise :lol:
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by onenight » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:59 pm

    Stained Class wrote:I found out about this cruise in september of 09, and they already had the dates and at least a handful of bands announced. They could be just giving us a bit of time so that those of us that get presale will have saved up enough money to use it. Thats my theory.


    That would be fine with me, I could use some more time. Still trying to pay off the last boat ride.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by KevinP » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:12 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:I'm frusttrated but not because of the cruise :lol:


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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Evican » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:33 pm

    I wish they would announce the cruise dates soon! There are deals on flights to Miami at the moment!
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by ida » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:39 pm

    I'm pretty sure the wat for the announcement is going to be worth it.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Evil Red » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:46 am

    Besides my 2012 cruise alloted-tax return burning a hole in my pocket, I'm annoyed as hell the merch from 2011 is still unavailable!

    An acual word from the management would be helpful. I'm pretty broke right now and knowing if my savings account had some wiggle room or not (after 70K 2012) would be a relief.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by sheila » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:57 am

    I have heard April was when they would announce something... Don't know how true that is but it's just sooo far away!!! I do daily check ups.. Still nothing! :death:
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by starlight » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:04 am

    Deathbringer wrote:I don't know if this has been posted/figured out yet or not, but I just did a little research and here is what I found out...

    Allure of the Seas is the ONLY ship during the months of Jan and Feb that sails to the Caribbean that does not allow you to book it on the week of Jan 29-Feb 5. It usually sails out of Ft Lauderdale. Could this be the week?

    I don't want another ship! I want my MAJESTY back :cry:
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      Eat less (counterproductive)
      Sleep less (waste of time)
      Drink more -> PARTY MORE

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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by starlight » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:06 am

    Evican wrote:I wish they would announce the cruise dates soon! There are deals on flights to Miami at the moment!

    Absolutely! The same here! 485,- Euro for a direct flight ...
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by stoverkill » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:38 am

    starlight wrote:
    Deathbringer wrote:I don't want another ship! I want my MAJESTY back :cry:


    +1 I loved the Majesty - anything bigger means more walking.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Michaelage » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:36 am

    im not getting frustrated by the announcement... im getting frustrated by everybody that keeps screaming that they are getting frustrated.... i got an remedy for ya GO BAG YOUR BAG ALREADY!!!! this time last year the discussions about the shirts people would take were rampant nothing went fast enough and everybody was busy screaming there heads off...

    KEEP IT EASY THEY WILL ANNOUCE WHEN THEY ARE READY!!!!

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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Stained Class » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:44 am

    I'm getting frustrated by people who are getting frustrated by everybody that keeps screaming that they are getting frustrated! GAAAH! :evil:
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    by Laura » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:26 am

    Stained Class wrote:I'm getting frustrated by people who are getting frustrated by everybody that keeps screaming that they are getting frustrated! GAAAH! :evil:

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
    I've chosen to avoid this part of the forum for the most part until there is some concrete information for 2012. I suggest everyone just post on silly threads like The SEX Thread, Urbandictionary, etc. on Off Course, as well as general metal discussion threads on Engine Room! Frustration - be gone!
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    by WallieWallie » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:53 am

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    by SatansWrath » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:47 pm

    I do want an announcement, but not as soon as possible. I still havnt any money at all, need to wait for taxback and all that shit and piss. first its all European metal festivals then I start save again, damn and since everyone that was on this cruise realised that an expensive cabin is truly unnecessary, the "cheap" cabins will be booked first.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Lala » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:56 pm

    SatansWrath wrote:I do want an announcement, but not as soon as possible.


    Since the End of the Cruise there was nothing announced here. No "Thank You" for being onbroad, not one word from Andy. Just one Posting from Allison, she declared the Codes invalid. That's it. i wonder that nothing will be posted here, this would be much easier than answering many e-mails.
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    by KevinP » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:04 pm

    Lal@ wrote:Since the End of the Cruise there was nothing announced here. No "Thank You" for being onbroad, not one word from Andy. Just one Posting from Allison, she declared the Codes invalid. That's it. i wonder that nothing will be posted here, this would be much easier than answering many e-mails.
    if i would treat my customers like this.......


    With the way we are all clamoring to give them our money, they don't need to do anything. Sure it's nice to have all the feel good stuff beforehand, but what matters is the event. A Thank You isn't going to sell anymore tickets next time around.

    Now if there are suddenly 2-3 other "metal cruises" that pop up, then you may have something here. But when you are the only game in town, you can do what you want.

    Thankfully they got us so used to this the first time around that not hearing anything is hardly surprising. :mrgreen:
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by mcozzy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:31 pm

    The first week of February would be awesome! I hope the announcement is in April. I just accepted a job and told them I have a "pre-planned" vacation in January or February... :heavydrink:
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    by Deathbringer » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:58 am

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    by Metalwrath » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:01 am

    To be honest i can see myself bailing on next years cruise if they don't announce it soon cause i need to plan my summer festivals and trips and can't afford to just wait around with my current budget while festivals start selling out and fligths get more expensive.
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    by Lala » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:40 am

    Metalwrath wrote: fligths get more expensive.


    That's why i want i date and a Place - don't care about the Ship oder the Bands or the Island to cruise to.....
    But Andy don't care about that - i think he has to write downthe exact words that he wants to tell all the tv-teams next year.....
    the old "vancouver, apartement, Cruise Ship, to many beers" Story is not good enuff for a second time.....

    btw: Is there a cruise announcend for next year or is it all just a wishing well ?
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    by Zeh » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:44 am

    Heabymetawhunta wrote:aren't there rumors about an announcement in April?

    I heard of April's Fool :lol:

    In fact, I read a girl on Twitter saying it will be on 23rd Jan 2012, but no solid information of where did she found it.
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    by mooyagi » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:02 pm

    Lal@ wrote:
    btw: Is there a cruise announcend for next year or is it all just a wishing well ?


    I got confirmation on the phone of a 2012 cruise. Also, in PMs with Andy and Allison they mentioned being hard at work for setting up the 2012 cruise and to expect an announcement shortly (this was a while ago).
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    by Zeh » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:05 pm

    As Metalwrath said, I'm also concerned about the dates. As closer you get from departure, higher are the air fees, hotels, cars, etc.
    I was checking my last year activity, and brought the air tickets on 25th Feb and cruise ones on 15th Feb, I suppose. :shock:
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    by wildchild » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:39 pm

    You can still get good deals on airfares later on, my friends that went with me didnt´t book their flights until 3 or 4 weeks before the cruise, and they got a better deal than me that booked my flights in May 2010, and my deal was a good one...
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    by Zeh » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:43 pm

    For me there were better fares for the worse flights. Like leaving during the dawn, 10 hours connections and on the cargo bay.
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    by last_candle » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:26 pm

    out of curiosity, I just checked flight prices - and they seem to be acceptable ;)
    fun thing I noticed: it's more expensive to fly to Atlanta than flying to New York via Atlanta :D
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Max_Rockwell » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:52 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    Lal@ wrote:
    btw: Is there a cruise announcend for next year or is it all just a wishing well ?


    I got confirmation on the phone of a 2012 cruise. Also, in PMs with Andy and Allison they mentioned being hard at work for setting up the 2012 cruise and to expect an announcement shortly (this was a while ago).


    I think it's going to be hard to top last years line up though. Perhaps they're looking to book a dozen or so bands before making the announcement. Andy mentioned that some bands didn't like the idea of being on the boat, and that could really bring down the possibilities or good bands being invited.

    And obviously we know they need to book at least a few bands that the general metal community will recognize.

    Hopefully they get it all going cause I'd like to see the line up and decide if I'm going back again next year or not.
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    Re: Anyone else getting frustrated?

    by Metalwrath » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:12 am

    Some bands will never agree to plating on a boat because they will see it as too commercial.
    Others won't play to only 2k people.
    And then you have the majority of bigger more known bands who don't want to be on a boat with 2000 fans anoying them all the time.
    So yeah i guess it's kind of hard to find the right bands to play and there's also the contractual issues that will arise with larger bands that would probbaly take a lot longer to negotiate.
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