This community already has enough infighting and drama between types of metal. I think the 4X group is sort of dumb cuz you're adding a genre/style specific cruise to the regular 70K and are automatically excluding many of the 70K community here. Excluding losers like me who are missing 70K 2013 I can understand but including Barge in any kind of loyalty acknowledgement group is really only acknowledging fans of extreme metal. I can't wait until there's a true power weinies only cruise to see who actually makes the 5X or 6X or whatever it will be by then club and to hear all the Barge folks who wouldn't set foot on that cruise complain that it shouldn't count cuz it's not a real metal cruise
OK, first off... the 4X club was really a joke more or less. It was supposed to be kinda funny, but a tribute to the small and loyal group who have been on all the UMC cruises. I deliberately wanted to have the meetup at the same place and location as regular forum meetup because really that's who I want to see more than anyone. I never cared about having anything else separate, above, or apart from everyone else other than a t-shirt. It was supposed to be funny that we would be on one side of the bball court than everyone else, but really it was supposed to just be all in good fun.
And I have to totally disagree with your assessment that "including Barge in any kind of loyalty acknowledgement group is really only acknowledging fans of extreme metal." How can you possibly say that??? 3 70Ks +1 Barge does NOT = only fans of extreme metal.
And Barge people wouldn't set foot on 70K??? Well I did. In fact several of us did. If I go on 3 70Ks and 1 Barge, seems like that's more power metal than death metal. What about the 70K people that wouldn't set foot on Barge? What does Kevin always say?? Can't handle the brutality?
And this isn't about "who can afford" all the cruises. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, and I nearly didn't even make it on Barge, but for the act of generosity of others and extreme budget planning and hard work.
So sorry if there are hurt feelings and sentiments of exclusion, but that was never my intention and I hope that nobody feels like I was trying to be a 'for real' jerk about it. I was only trying to be a 'pretend' jerk.
You can still think I'm a jerk, but please, not over this.