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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by Blackfhyre » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:35 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Laura wrote:Ha - no opinion on Van Canto since I know absolutely *nothing* about them. :| :P (except that Dallas loves 'em!)

    Seem to be a 'you either love em or you hate em' kinda band Laura.

    Acapella - band consists of four singers and a drummer. So yeah, they draw ire from people because they are not 'true' musicians, and they also do more than your average amount of cover versions.

    But yeah, to me they are a breath of fresh air, their cover versions are awesome (their cover of Grave Digger's "Rebellion" one of my favourites. And "Wishmaster" by Van Canto. And "Primo Victoria" by Sabaton). And some of their original songs are amazing too.

    So yeah, they are another band that will polarize people. Elitists like Kevin will hate them, people that like to have fun will love them :) :P

    They fall somewhere in the middle for me. I love their covers of Rebellion and Primo Victoria, but don't those both include the singers from GD and Sabaton?
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by cowboy71 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:44 pm

    KevinP wrote:
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    So yeah, they are another band that will polarize people. Elitists like Kevin will hate them, people that like to have fun will love them :) :P


    I love you too :D

    And I have tons of fun, staying up til the wee hours of the morning, while you are sleeping most of the time and never at karaoke :P

    HEHEHE. But, I didn't see you at all last cruise at Karaoke.... :?

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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by scyll » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:53 pm

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    scyll wrote:Whoa, Van Canto AND Korpiklaani would already be enough to book for me. Add Wintersun, Before the Dawn and Amon Amarth (who are all realistic for 2014), and the whiners can get the other 35 bands! :lol:

    Must be handy to have low standards in metal.


    Who the hell are you to judge what's good and what's not, exactly? I can't wait to be educated by someone who has "superior" standards... :roll:
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by X-Thor » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:01 pm

    I really like Van Vanto songs more than the covers (except Rebellion, which is awesome).
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by cowboy71 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:08 pm

    scyll wrote:
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    scyll wrote:Whoa, Van Canto AND Korpiklaani would already be enough to book for me. Add Wintersun, Before the Dawn and Amon Amarth (who are all realistic for 2014), and the whiners can get the other 35 bands! :lol:

    Must be handy to have low standards in metal.


    Who the hell are you to judge what's good and what's not, exactly? I can't wait to be educated by someone who has "superior" standards... :roll:

    Dude. He is IRISH.

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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by meshuggah » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:57 pm

    gnoff_the_creep wrote:I know what I like, and I try really hard not to judge others when it comes to what they like in music.

    It is harder not to tell people not to drink what I consider to be bad beers...



    As for bad beer, most of them aren't even beer (Bud, Miller, etc.)

    It's difficult not to judge people who listen to shit like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, most rap.....
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by Metalwrath » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:49 pm

    scyll wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:
    scyll wrote:Whoa, Van Canto AND Korpiklaani would already be enough to book for me. Add Wintersun, Before the Dawn and Amon Amarth (who are all realistic for 2014), and the whiners can get the other 35 bands! :lol:

    Must be handy to have low standards in metal.


    Who the hell are you to judge what's good and what's not, exactly? I can't wait to be educated by someone who has "superior" standards... :roll:

    I was refering to the fact that you'd consider a karaoke band a major booking band.
    My thoughts on Van Canto are probably well known by this stage.The fact that they get quite large spots at cocnerts and festivals is basically insulting to very musician in metal.
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by X-Thor » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:02 am

    Metalwrath wrote:I was refering to the fact that you'd consider a karaoke band a major booking band.
    My thoughts on Van Canto are probably well known by this stage.The fact that they get quite large spots at cocnerts and festivals is basically insulting to very musician in metal.


    I'm sure all the musicians that have recorded a song with them are terribly insulted too. :roll: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by Metalwrath » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:00 am

    X-Thor wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:I was refering to the fact that you'd consider a karaoke band a major booking band.
    My thoughts on Van Canto are probably well known by this stage.The fact that they get quite large spots at cocnerts and festivals is basically insulting to very musician in metal.


    I'm sure all the musicians that have recorded a song with them are terribly insulted too. :roll: :lol: :lol:

    Once again.I couldn't care if they make albums.they can do whatever they want but stealing spots from actual bands for festivals and getting headlining concerts is a joke.It's pretty sad to be honest.
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by Laura » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:23 am

    Re: Van Canto...I finally got around to youtubing them a bit....and I'm just kinda meh about them - they strike me as pretty much a "novelty" group and not much more - so I get Wrath's point....but, I also get why some people might dig 'em a lot too...so, whatever floats your boat. :beerwink:

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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by cowboy71 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:20 pm

    WHAT THE FRAK HAPPENED TO OUR "eventful week in front of us"? :roll:

    Yes, even though I love them to bits, Van Canto are a bit of a novelty band. But to me they are a breath of fresh air. Something a bit different to listen to :)

    It cant be soaring vocals and blaring guitar solos all the time.

    And they are talented musicians in their own right - Stef sings and plays rhythm guitar for Hevatar, Bastian as well as playing drums for Van Canto plays keyboards for In Legend, Ike plays guitar for Paralyst.

    They probably view Van Canto as a good way to get a bit of exposure for their other projects, and to help pay the bills.

    Should they be crucified upside down because they've found a niche and became a little successful? I don't think so.
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    Re: 45 Weeks To Go!

    by Laura » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:10 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:WHAT THE FRAK HAPPENED TO OUR "eventful week in front of us"? :roll:


    Yeah - really. :roll: I think Kevin was right on a fb post he made not long ago - that after a string of no-announcement posts, all communication would cease - completely (for some unknown period of time).

    cowboy71 wrote:Yes, even though I love them to bits, Van Canto are a bit of a novelty band. But to me they are a breath of fresh air. Something a bit different to listen to :)

    It cant be soaring vocals and blaring guitar solos all the time.

    And they are talented musicians in their own right - Stef sings and plays rhythm guitar for Hevatar, Bastian as well as playing drums for Van Canto plays keyboards for In Legend, Ike plays guitar for Paralyst.

    They probably view Van Canto as a good way to get a bit of exposure for their other projects, and to help pay the bills.

    Should they be crucified upside down because they've found a niche and became a little successful? I don't think so.


    I have no problem with what they do, that they've found a niche, and they've got fans - that's :cool: no matter who it is, to me anyway. I'm all for variety and putting new stuff out there - or new twists on old stuff or old twists on new stuff, or whatever. It's all good....even Bieber - he's just another in an extremely long parade of young guys who are clearly marketed to appeal to lots & lots of teen girls (although my girls have never cared for him much, and I agree there have been FAR better examples of teen heartthrob types than him!! :lol: )

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    Enjoy Your Weekend!

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    So glad I was not holding my breath for a big announcement.
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    by X-Thor » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:12 pm

    Azazel101 wrote:So glad I was not holding my breath for a big announcement.


    Anyone actually thought there'd be one?

    We already know Andy loves to troll us. :P


    And on the Van Canto subject. I really don't get the hate. Sure, they are kind of a "novelty" band. So what? They still make good music. Good covers and very good original material (Hero, The Mission, Betrayed are but a few of them). Sure, they are a weenie band. So what? We just came back from the Barge to Rainbows (featuring 4 or 5 trve brutal bands). They are good nice weenie music [Kevin, you can make your dild joke around here].
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    Re: Enjoy Your Weekend!

    by KDibildeaux » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:49 pm

    I don't hate Van Canto but I don't really care for them, either. It's not just the cheesiness, I'm just not really impressed by their music but to each their own.
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    by Hector » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:12 am

    Van Canto? Brrrr.......
    But if they happen to be on the cruise - so what...? This year had over 20 bands which I had the same thoughts..... :lol: Enough space and time to avoid this kind of stuff..... :lol:
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    by cowboy71 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:22 am

    Hector wrote:Van Canto? Brrrr.......
    But if they happen to be on the cruise - so what...? This year had over 20 bands which I had the same thoughts..... :lol: Enough space and time to avoid this kind of stuff..... :lol:

    That right there? THAT, is the attitude.

    As long as I've got 10 bands I love on the cruise, that is 20 sets of good music right there. The rest can be thrash, death, extrem, nu.... I. DONT. CARE.

    The elitist "oooh Magnum aren't l33t enough, ooooh van canto aren't trve cvlt enough to be on broad" attitude shits me to tears.

    You don't like it? FINE. MOVE ON. LIVE YOUR LIFE. Why do people insist on hating on things? How about, not wasting your time on it and doing something FUN?

    That attitude, well it's pretty sad to be honest
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    by jodionline » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:54 am

    I think so too. :cheers:
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    Re: Enjoy Your Weekend!

    by Speedy » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:59 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Hector wrote:Van Canto? Brrrr.......
    But if they happen to be on the cruise - so what...? This year had over 20 bands which I had the same thoughts..... :lol: Enough space and time to avoid this kind of stuff..... :lol:

    That right there? THAT, is the attitude.

    As long as I've got 10 bands I love on the cruise, that is 20 sets of good music right there. The rest can be thrash, death, extrem, nu.... I. DONT. CARE.

    The elitist "oooh Magnum aren't l33t enough, ooooh van canto aren't trve cvlt enough to be on broad" attitude shits me to tears.

    You don't like it? FINE. MOVE ON. LIVE YOUR LIFE. Why do people insist on hating on things? How about, not wasting your time on it and doing something FUN?

    That attitude, well it's pretty sad to be honest

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    Re: Enjoy Your Weekend!

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    by X-Thor » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:16 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Hector wrote:Van Canto? Brrrr.......
    But if they happen to be on the cruise - so what...? This year had over 20 bands which I had the same thoughts..... :lol: Enough space and time to avoid this kind of stuff..... :lol:

    That right there? THAT, is the attitude.

    As long as I've got 10 bands I love on the cruise, that is 20 sets of good music right there. The rest can be thrash, death, extrem, nu.... I. DONT. CARE.

    The elitist "oooh Magnum aren't l33t enough, ooooh van canto aren't trve cvlt enough to be on broad" attitude shits me to tears.

    You don't like it? FINE. MOVE ON. LIVE YOUR LIFE. Why do people insist on hating on things? How about, not wasting your time on it and doing something FUN?

    That attitude, well it's pretty sad to be honest


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    Re: Enjoy Your Weekend!

    by Metalwrath » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:21 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Hector wrote:Van Canto? Brrrr.......
    But if they happen to be on the cruise - so what...? This year had over 20 bands which I had the same thoughts..... :lol: Enough space and time to avoid this kind of stuff..... :lol:

    That right there? THAT, is the attitude.

    As long as I've got 10 bands I love on the cruise, that is 20 sets of good music right there. The rest can be thrash, death, extrem, nu.... I. DONT. CARE.

    The elitist "oooh Magnum aren't l33t enough, ooooh van canto aren't trve cvlt enough to be on broad" attitude shits me to tears.

    You don't like it? FINE. MOVE ON. LIVE YOUR LIFE. Why do people insist on hating on things? How about, not wasting your time on it and doing something FUN?

    That attitude, well it's pretty sad to be honest
    Nobody mentioned cult or wahtever you are refering to.When i go to a metal festival i expect to see 'metal' bands play.It seems kind weird why such a simple concept is so obscure to some of the people going on the cruise.then again i could probably name drop all 20 bands that most of you know from power metal or pagan fest tour.
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    by Jaimie38 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:34 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:.then again i could probably name drop all 20 bands that most of you know from power metal or pagan fest tour.



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    Re: Enjoy Your Weekend!

    by KevinP » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:56 am

    gnoff_the_creep wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:When i go to a metal festival i expect to see 'metal' bands play.


    Who gets to decide what is 'metal' though?


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    by X-Thor » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:26 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:When i go to a metal festival i expect to see 'metal' bands play.It seems kind weird why such a simple concept is so obscure to some of the people going on the cruise.


    And here I was thinking metal festivals had bands people wanted to see. Like Van Canto. :P
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    by LadyBlackfhyre » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:43 am

    X-Thor wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:When i go to a metal festival i expect to see 'metal' bands play.It seems kind weird why such a simple concept is so obscure to some of the people going on the cruise.


    And here I was thinking metal festivals had bands people wanted to see. Like Van Canto. :P



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    by CaptOblivious » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:28 am

    LadyBlackfhyre wrote:
    X-Thor wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:When i go to a metal festival i expect to see 'metal' bands play.It seems kind weird why such a simple concept is so obscure to some of the people going on the cruise.


    And here I was thinking metal festivals had bands people wanted to see. Like Van Canto. :P



    It seems everyone is super super picky!!!!!! : )

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    What about the bands for 2014?

    by Andy » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:53 pm


    What about the bands? When are we announcing the first bands that will play in January 2014 on 70000TONS OF METAL, The World's Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise?

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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by Stained Class » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:57 pm

    Why is this post?
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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by mooyagi » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:57 pm

    You cocktease :lol:
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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by Stained Class » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:00 pm

    Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!
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    by X-Thor » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:05 pm

    Stained Class wrote:Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!


    Nah, he's just trolling. Otherwise he'd be all over the bacon thread.
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    by Lala » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:26 pm

    As he did nearly everything wrong last year he wants to do everything right this time. but he has no middle between less and too many Annoucements.... :chug:
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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by Ecliptica » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:35 pm

    Not yet! I'm moving and don't have money to send you. This is the only time I think I've ever NOT wanted announcements.
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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by KevinP » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:10 pm

    Stained Class wrote:Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!



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    by cowboy71 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:49 pm

    Stained Class wrote:Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!

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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by Stained Class » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:06 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!

    Only thing is, he is already "THE SKIPPER". Not sure what rank could come after that!! :P

    Well I don't know! Maybe when he reaches 666 posts he ranks up to some super rank!
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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by mooyagi » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:34 pm

    Stained Class wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:Guys, I've figured it out. Andy's just trying to get his post count up. He saw how much fun we had ranking up and now he wants to do it!

    Only thing is, he is already "THE SKIPPER". Not sure what rank could come after that!! :P

    Well I don't know! Maybe when he reaches 666 posts he ranks up to some super rank!


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    Re: What about the bands for 2014?

    by Stained Class » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:37 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:Well I don't know! Maybe when he reaches 666 posts he ranks up to some super rank!


    He becomes "The Ship"

    :lol: and then at 6666 posts he becomes The Metal!
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