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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by Azazel101 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:39 pm

    markku1 wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:For those complaining about the unbalanced nature of the lineup, I've done an analysis (yes I have too much time on my hands - I'm on holidays!!)

    I've generalised a lot in places, but it gives a general idea. Basically it is fair to say that Thrash and Power Metal fans are definitely being short changed this year.

    Genre - 2011 - 2012 - 2013 - 2014
    Death - 3 - 6 - 4 - 5
    Black - 2 - 3 - 2 - 1
    Doom - 2 - 3 - 1 - 2
    Thrash - 13 - 9 - 8 - 5
    Melodeath - 5 - 4 - 2 - 4
    Power - 6 - 6 - 6 - 3
    Folk - 4 - 4 - 7 - 3
    Hard Rock/Heavy Metal - 4 - 3 - 8 - 3
    Symphonic - 1 - 3 - 3 - 2
    Industrial - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1
    Pirate - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0

    5 Death this year ??? I count only 2 And 8 Thrash !

    DTA, Obituary, Carcass, Puget Stench make 4 and maybe Izagrim?
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by Chris » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:07 pm

    I could stand a few folk additions.

    I am not very big on splitting hairs with genre labeling, but I feel the line up is pretty close to the first two cruises in balance between "extreme metal" and others(prog/power/folk/glam/whateverthefuckelse).

    Also, I am surprised there isn't a beer sponsor for this thing...
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    by Azazel101 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:43 pm

    Chris wrote:I could stand a few folk additions.

    I am not very big on splitting hairs with genre labeling, but I feel the line up is pretty close to the first two cruises in balance between "extreme metal" and others(prog/power/folk/glam/whateverthefuckelse).

    Also, I am surprised there isn't a beer sponsor for this thing...

    I totally agree on all notes :dreams:
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    by cowboy71 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:24 pm

    Azazel101 wrote:DTA, Obituary, Carcass, Puget Stench make 4 and maybe Izagrim?

    Bingo. Like I said. I. HAVE. GENERALISED!!

    I love it how you say something like that, yet people still feel the need to correct you :roll: :lol:
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    by SwallowYourSun » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:36 pm

    I love Stone beer... One of America's Best breweries.... I also love Cynic..... can Mercenary be Kamelots replacement?
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by DragonLordJones » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:55 pm

    Chris wrote:
    Also, I am surprised there isn't a beer sponsor for this thing...



    After the first cruise I'm surprised Foster's wasn't all over that :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    by Memnoch » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:10 am

    cowboy71 wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:DTA, Obituary, Carcass, Puget Stench make 4 and maybe Izagrim?

    Bingo. Like I said. I. HAVE. GENERALISED!!

    I love it how you say something like that, yet people still feel the need to correct you :roll: :lol:


    Hey, death metal is a serious matter. Btw, Izegrim is thrash, not death. Carcass has some death, thrash and grind elements, but I'd put them in the melodeath category, because that is their most dominant side nowadays. So, DTA, Obituary and Pungent Stench are the only death metal onbroad.

    Looking at the list I think it's obvious that thrash has been over represented in the past and this time round it's closer to what it should be. First year we had almost one third of the lineup being thrash and that is waaaaaaaaaay too much, no matter how you slice it. We've been lacking in death metal, except in 2012 which was a rather good year in that respect.
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    by Azazel101 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:43 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:DTA, Obituary, Carcass, Puget Stench make 4 and maybe Izagrim?

    Bingo. Like I said. I. HAVE. GENERALISED!!

    I love it how you say something like that, yet people still feel the need to correct you :roll: :lol:


    Hey, death metal is a serious matter. Btw, Izegrim is thrash, not death. Carcass has some death, thrash and grind elements, but I'd put them in the melodeath category, because that is their most dominant side nowadays. So, DTA, Obituary and Pungent Stench are the only death metal onbroad.

    Looking at the list I think it's obvious that thrash has been over represented in the past and this time round it's closer to what it should be. First year we had almost one third of the lineup being thrash and that is waaaaaaaaaay too much, no matter how you slice it. We've been lacking in death metal, except in 2012 which was a rather good year in that respect.

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    by DragonLordJones » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:01 am

    STACH100 wrote:Oh yeah Helix would be great!!!
    And Cowboy so far everyone is being shortchanged.


    I wouldn't mind Helix being added .... many great hits in the 80's I think it was the 80's :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    by bodomdragon » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:31 am

    SwallowYourSun wrote:can Mercenary be Kamelots replacement?

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    by TOM CRUISE » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:39 am

    STACH100 wrote:I definitely do not put GraveDigger in the powermetal genre.

    Me either . I guess I'm a lover of power metal. I like. 11 of the bands categorized as power metal on the previous page.
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    by epartos » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:05 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    cowboy71 wrote:
    Azazel101 wrote:DTA, Obituary, Carcass, Puget Stench make 4 and maybe Izagrim?

    Bingo. Like I said. I. HAVE. GENERALISED!!

    I love it how you say something like that, yet people still feel the need to correct you :roll: :lol:


    Hey, death metal is a serious matter. Btw, Izegrim is thrash, not death. Carcass has some death, thrash and grind elements, but I'd put them in the melodeath category, because that is their most dominant side nowadays. So, DTA, Obituary and Pungent Stench are the only death metal onbroad.

    Looking at the list I think it's obvious that thrash has been over represented in the past and this time round it's closer to what it should be. First year we had almost one third of the lineup being thrash and that is waaaaaaaaaay too much, no matter how you slice it. We've been lacking in death metal, except in 2012 which was a rather good year in that respect.


    Now now.. there is no such thing as to much thrash!! :viking:
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    by epartos » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:06 am

    Stained Class wrote:So I'm just throwing this out there. I'm really happy with the lineup myself but it's true that we are lacking in power metal. This band is really really good and American and not very big, so I imagine they'd be pretty easy to book. If Andy reads this maybe you'll consider them :mrgreen: Armory

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    by Memnoch » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:17 am

    epartos wrote:Now now.. there is no such thing as to much thrash!!


    Yes, there is. And to me personally even 1 thrash band is too much. But I can live with a few onbroad. :beerwink:
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    by epartos » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:21 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    epartos wrote:Now now.. there is no such thing as to much thrash!!


    Yes, there is. And to me personally even 1 thrash band is too much. But I can live with a few onbroad. :beerwink:


    I have my roots firmly set in the thrash genre, but I thoroughly love death as well, so I am happy either way! :shred:
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    by carlynjason » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:23 am

    The phrase power metal makes me cringe, as an old fart ,power metal to me is what i call "nursery rhyme metal" where everything bounces along and has clever rhymes, and sunshine flows from unicorn asses with dragons cutting keys with swords of awesomeness, love to cliche :)
    when metal was king the thing that killed it was segregation , im sure lemmy said "its all rock n roll" i can feel the same elitist attitude again where labels take over, stop stop stop, its not to hard to say i like metal, and if pressed say..........mmmmm heavy :) rant over :) ok so who has the most specific genre of metal name ? like black metal symphonic grindcore sleaze stoner powerpop, thats the only metal i like :)
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    by Dimma » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:08 am

    Power Metal morphed into symphonic pop something, just like 'hair' metal morphed into MTV ballads.

    Both changes were cringeworthy.
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    by headlinerluxi » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:56 am

    2011 2012 2013 2014
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    Hard Rock/Heavy Metal 4 3 8 3


    so hopefully 3 more powermetal and 3 more heavy metal bands....that would be great
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    by lampropelma » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:46 am

    headlinerluxi wrote:2011 2012 2013 2014
    Power 6 6 6 3
    Hard Rock/Heavy Metal 4 3 8 3


    so hopefully 3 more powermetal and 3 more heavy metal bands....that would be great


    I agree
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    by MLH » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:40 am

    headlinerluxi wrote:2011 2012 2013 2014
    Power 6 6 6 3
    Hard Rock/Heavy Metal 4 3 8 3


    so hopefully 3 more powermetal and 3 more heavy metal bands....that would be great


    I don't really see 3 PM bands around. The few bits that i've heard from Haggard or Rising Storm aren't really power metal. Xandria seems to be more towards the symphonic metal side too. SO imo both EU and US power metal are currently non-excistant onBoard. For me European PM is at least something like Helloween/Rhapsody or older Statovarius and Us having Jag Panzer, Omen and such.

    But indeed could use more both along those lines.
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    by Stained Class » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:48 am

    MLH wrote:
    headlinerluxi wrote:2011 2012 2013 2014
    Power 6 6 6 3
    Hard Rock/Heavy Metal 4 3 8 3


    so hopefully 3 more powermetal and 3 more heavy metal bands....that would be great


    I don't really see 3 PM bands around. The few bits that i've heard from Haggard or Rising Storm aren't really power metal. Xandria seems to be more towards the symphonic metal side too. SO imo both EU and US power metal are currently non-excistant onBoard. For me European PM is at least something like Helloween/Rhapsody or older Statovarius and Us having Jag Panzer, Omen and such.

    But indeed could use more both along those lines.

    Here's how I look at it:
    Symphonic/Power: Xandria
    Prog/Power: Symphony X, Rising Storm
    Heavy/Power: Vicious Rumors

    So there are no "pure" power metal bands yet.
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    by meshuggah » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:54 am

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    by broegaard » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:03 am

    pure power metal = Iced Earth?
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    by Stained Class » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:06 am

    broegaard wrote:pure power metal = Iced Earth?

    I think so. Depends on people's perceptions. I'm hoping for a power metal band for all the people that really want them (not including me) so one of them should answer that :mrgreen: I'm fine with the lineup, don't care if the rest are bands I like.
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    by broegaard » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:24 am

    Stained Class wrote:
    broegaard wrote:pure power metal = Iced Earth?

    I think so. Depends on people's perceptions. I'm hoping for a power metal band for all the people that really want them (not including me) so one of them should answer that :mrgreen: I'm fine with the lineup, don't care if the rest are bands I like.



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    by Stained Class » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:29 am

    broegaard wrote:
    Stained Class wrote:
    broegaard wrote:pure power metal = Iced Earth?

    I think so. Depends on people's perceptions. I'm hoping for a power metal band for all the people that really want them (not including me) so one of them should answer that :mrgreen: I'm fine with the lineup, don't care if the rest are bands I like.



    the "new" Insomnium EP is so good!!!!

    Insomnium is definitely near the top of my wish list. Never seen them and they aren't playing any fests I'm going to yet.
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    by broegaard » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:36 am

    the "new" Insomnium EP is so good!!!![/quote]
    Insomnium is definitely near the top of my wish list. Never seen them and they aren't playing any fests I'm going to yet.[/quote]


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    broegaard wrote:This festival is very interesting....maybe, just maybe....

    10.07.2014 | (D) Rockharz festival - Amorphis, Wolfheart, Helloween, Primal Fear, Sabaton, Insomnium, Sodom, Soilwork, Powerwolf, Gloryhammer, Children Of Bodom,.....



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    RootOfAllEvil wrote:
    broegaard wrote:This festival is very interesting....maybe, just maybe....

    10.07.2014 | (D) Rockharz festival - Amorphis, Wolfheart, Helloween, Primal Fear, Sabaton, Insomnium, Sodom, Soilwork, Powerwolf, Gloryhammer, Children Of Bodom,.....



    Ticket is arleady hanging at my pinboard...


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    for me is a 11 hours flight + train....But..........!!!!!!

    Next week I will arrange my 2014 vacation.....
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    by mfrap » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:28 am

    gnoff_the_creep wrote:I love beer


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    by jodionline » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:32 am

    gnoff_the_creep wrote:I love beer


    Where is this festival ? :lol:
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by broegaard » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:39 am

    jodionline wrote:
    gnoff_the_creep wrote:I love beer


    Where is this festival ? :lol:



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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by jodionline » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:43 am

    Of course where else. I had to know this, because I was born in Duisburg and from there comes König Pilsner. :D
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by Electrichead » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:26 pm

    Needs more HIGH ON FIRE!
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by athun » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:35 pm

    epartos wrote:Now now.. there is no such thing as to much thrash!! :viking:


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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by ShoreSlayer » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:37 pm

    Stained Class wrote:
    broegaard wrote:pure power metal = Iced Earth?

    I think so. Depends on people's perceptions

    To your first sentence Joey, I say, 'Surely you jest!!!' :shock:

    Then I read the second sentence and am, like, yeah okay, I guess so :oops: :?
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by Metaladdict187 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:27 pm

    Beeeeeeeeeer :3drunks:
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    Re: FIREWORKS!

    by cowboy71 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:35 pm

    Will be plenty of drinking for me this cruise!! And lots of 'yeeeah I'll go see that gig if I feel like it', rather than staying semi-sober as I need to run back and forth between stages to catch 'must see' shows like I've had to do previous cruises.
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