[cowboy71]

Accept. Just parted ways with drummer and guitarist AND Wolf and Peter will be at NAMM
Agathodaimon. Split up.
Allegaeon. Will be at NAMM.
Amon Amarth. Touring
Anaal Nathrakh. Touring.
Archgoat. Touring
Aversions Crown. Touring Europe at the time of the cruise.
Battle Beast (touring with Sabaton)
Black Label Society. Doing Shiprocked
Blackdeath. Touring
Blues Pills. Date scheduled in Greece during cruise.
Bölzer. Gigs in Europe.
Caliban. Touring Europe at the time of the cruise.
Circle II Circle. Appearing at NAMM.
Crimson Shadows. Touring Canada.
Dead Congregation. Conflicting tourdates.
Deathstars - touring Mexico during cruise.
Delain (touring with Sabaton)
Diablo Blvd. Touring.
Dødsengel. Playing with Primordial.
Downfall of Gaia. Touring.
Draconian. Recording album.
Dragonforce (Supporting Epica)
Dread Sovereign. Primordial touring rules them out.
Elm Street. Touring US.
Emeth. Gig in Netherlands during cruise.
Epica (touring Europe at the time of the cruise)
Ex Libris (Xandria touring)
Exciter. Said Japan in February would be their first gig of 2015.
Eyehategod. Touring.
Fallujah
The Faceless - date scheduled during the cruise
Hammerfall (touring Europe)
Havok - Said they would decline if asked as they will be working on their new album.
Huntress. Touring with Amon Amarth
Iced Earth (Jon told someone that "once was enough", to me he said it just wasn't financially viable)
Inquisition. Touring
Insomnium (touring USA with Dark Tranquillity)
Iron Maiden (If they ever did a cruise, it would be their own)
The Iron Maidens. Playing at NAMM.
Jon Oliva's Pain (don't think Jon would ever do a cruise)
King Diamond (Don't think he'd do a cruise)
Krokus (doing Monsters of Rock cruise so unlikely to do both)
Lacuna Coil. Doing the Shiprocked cruise so unlikely to do both.
Last Bastion. Playing gig with Dark Tranquillity on 23rd January.
Leng Tch'e. Touring.
Lord. Playing in Melbourne on the 24th of January
M:Pire of Evil. Touring Europe at the time of the cruise
Machinehead. Touring
Manowar(Money reasons)
Marduk - Ruled out. Dates scheduled in Japan during cruise.
MaYan (If Epica re ruled out then that rules them out too)
Mayem. Touring the US
Megaherz. Touring Europe
Morbid Angel. Band members will be at NAMM.
Ondskapt. Touring
Orden Ogan (touring with Hammerfall)
Place Vendome (don't think Kiske would ever do a cruise)
Powerwolf. Recording new album January-March.
Primordial. Gig in Belgium during the cruise.
Running Wild. Wacken will be their ONLY show in 2015.
Sabaton (touring Europe)
Sanctuary. One of the guitarists has to work.
Savage Messiah. Touring with Amon Amarth
Scar Symmetry. Have been asked previously. Cannot afford it.
Shape of Despair. Conflicting tourdates.
Sick of It All. Touring with Walls of Jericho.
Skull Fist. Touring with Elm Street.
Solstafir. Touring
Solstice. Playing with Primordial.
Stam1na. Touring.
Starkill. Wanted to be on. Told that all bands are booked already.
Stratovarius - cruiser asked them if they would be onbroad. They said no.
Suicidal Tendencies. March show is "first of 2015"
Taake. Conflicting tourdates.
Tankard. Touring
Testament. Band members will be at NAMM.
Uli Jon Roth. Dates scheduled during cruise.
Unisonic (dont think Kiske would ever do a cruise)
Vektor. Show scheduled 23rd January.
Walls of Jericho. Touring with Sick of it All at the time of the cruise.
W.A.S.P(Blacky isn't a people person)
Watain. Touring the US

Anyone on the MOTORBOAT could probably be ruled out. If so
Motorhead
Megadeth
Zakk Wylde
Anthrax
Testament
Down

All the bands on the Full Metal Cruise 2015 (I'm sure there would be some contractual clause forbidding this):
Sodom
Tankard (100% ruled out. Playing in Spain during the cruise)
Doro
Hammerfall
Subway to Sally
JBO
Saltatio Mortis
AllStarBand with Uli Jon Roth

All the bands on 70K 2014

[Metalwrath]

Manowar(Money reasons)
Motorhead(Money reasons and lemmys health.European tour cancelled.Rescheduled European cancelled after)
King DIamond(Money reasons and because of the stage set issue for festivals.Don't think he'd do a cruise anyway)
W.A.S.P(Blacky isn't a people person)

[Speedy]

All the bands on 70K 2014

All the bands on the Full Metal Cruise 2015 (I'm sure there would be some contractual clause forbidding this):
Sodom
Tankard
Doro
Hammerfall
Subway to Sally
JBO
Saltatio Mortis
AllStarBand with Uli Jon Roth

Jon Oliva's Pain (don't think Jon would ever do a cruise)
Place Vendome (don't think Kiske would ever do a cruise)
Manowar(Money reasons)
Motorhead(Money reasons and lemmys health.European tour cancelled.Rescheduled European cancelled after)
King DIamond(Money reasons and because of the stage set issue for festivals.Don't think he'd do a cruise anyway)
W.A.S.P(Blacky isn't a people person)

Doro played both 70k and FMC last year, so I don't see why not next year as well.
She's also playing MORC this year, so it seems like she loves cruises.

[DJ Old Man Stares]

I'm hoping Andy gives us the Teutonic Four for 2015, since we got 0 German Thrash bands this year, which was a first. Anyway, I'm hoping that you're wrong about FMC bands being off limits. Shouldn't effect anything.

[Stained Class]

I don't think FMC is off limits at all, maybe some bands would have contracts but other there were multiple bands that played both cruises.

[mfrap]

I heard KIng D loves cruises. Lets hope the new main venue is large enough to support the King

[Stained Class]

I heard KIng D loves cruises. Lets hope the new main venue is large enough to support the King

Yeah I was gonna bring this up at some point. Apparently he goes on 3 cruises a year. I would think the bigger boat would provide more of an opportunity for him to get away from the fans as well as maybe provide the budget needed to get him!

[mfrap]

Yea. Plus fans don't really swarm the band members on this thing. In fact I only ever saw a couple people even talking to members of bands outside of the karaoke lounge where the bands go to party anyways. I would think either most people wouldnt recognize King D without makeup or they'd be too intimidated to approach him. Plus I'm sure he'd be given a grand suite and plenty of spa trips.

[Spence]

I think you can discount bands that are famous for being horrible about meeting fans.

So probably no Megadeth, no Danzig, etc.

I'm hoping Andy gives us the Teutonic Four for 2015, since we got 0 German Thrash bands this year, which was a first. Anyway, I'm hoping that you're wrong about FMC bands being off limits. Shouldn't effect anything.

I've never heard it referred to as anything but the Teutonic Three before.

So Kreator, Sodom, Destruction...

Tankard? Exumer? Paradox? Holy Moses? Assassin?

Legitimately curious as to who you think the fourth is.

[cowboy71]

I've never heard it referred to as anything but the Teutonic Three before.

So Kreator, Sodom, Destruction...

Tankard? Exumer? Paradox? Holy Moses? Assassin?

Legitimately curious as to who you think the fourth is.

TANKARD

[Stained Class]

Yeah, it's like a thing now. I guess it has to be 4.

[Spence]

But the reason "Teutonic Three" works is because it's alliteration, i've even heard it referred to as the "Teutonic Three Titans." haha

Honestly, there's SO MANY excellent 80's German thrash metal bands, that it feels kind of shitty reducing it to only four. Holy Moses and Paradox definitely deserve more praise than Sodom or Destruction, IMO, and i'm still a fan of those two bands. hahaha (seeing Destruction in March )

[cowboy71]

Yea. Plus fans don't really swarm the band members on this thing. In fact I only ever saw a couple people even talking to members of bands outside of the karaoke lounge where the bands go to party anyways. I would think either most people wouldnt recognize King D without makeup or they'd be too intimidated to approach him. Plus I'm sure he'd be given a grand suite and plenty of spa trips.

I saw the keyboard player for Finntroll get PULLED OUT physically of the elevator by someone, because they wanted a photo with him.

My wife and I could not believe how rude that was! He clearly just wanted to get back to his cabin after their show, but this 'fan' had other plans.

[Captain Metal]

Sounds like the douche factor was working overtime this time around

[DJ Old Man Stares]

But the reason "Teutonic Three" works is because it's alliteration, i've even heard it referred to as the "Teutonic Three Titans." haha

Honestly, there's SO MANY excellent 80's German thrash metal bands, that it feels kind of shitty reducing it to only four. Holy Moses and Paradox definitely deserve more praise than Sodom or Destruction, IMO, and i'm still a fan of those two bands. hahaha (seeing Destruction in March )

Are you serious!?!? The Teutonic Four is Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, and Tankard. Theres even a vinyl called the Teutonic Four with all four bands names listed on the cover. That's the way it is, you can only accept it. Tankard belong, they were always peers of the other three and the never stopped pumping out album after album and still have a very large fanbase, much larger than Paradox and Holy Moses.

[Spence]

But the reason "Teutonic Three" works is because it's alliteration, i've even heard it referred to as the "Teutonic Three Titans." haha

Honestly, there's SO MANY excellent 80's German thrash metal bands, that it feels kind of shitty reducing it to only four. Holy Moses and Paradox definitely deserve more praise than Sodom or Destruction, IMO, and i'm still a fan of those two bands. hahaha (seeing Destruction in March )

Are you serious!?!? The Teutonic Four is Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, and Tankard. Theres even a vinyl called the Teutonic Four with all four bands names listed on the cover. That's the way it is, you can only accept it. Tankard belong, they were always peers of the other three and the never stopped pumping out album after album and still have a very large fanbase, much larger than Paradox and Holy Moses.

Huh! Never heard that, maybe it's just a New England metalhead thing. Basically no one I know into metal even knows who Tankard are, whereas I feel like most metalheads have at least heard of Holy Moses.

And honestly, Tankard aren't that popular - at least not in the states. They're playing MDF, and they're pretty damn low on the lineup.

[DrinkMoxie]

Tankard are definitely more popular than Holy Moses...

[X-Thor]

But the reason "Teutonic Three" works is because it's alliteration, i've even heard it referred to as the "Teutonic Three Titans." haha

Honestly, there's SO MANY excellent 80's German thrash metal bands, that it feels kind of shitty reducing it to only four. Holy Moses and Paradox definitely deserve more praise than Sodom or Destruction, IMO, and i'm still a fan of those two bands. hahaha (seeing Destruction in March )

Are you serious!?!? The Teutonic Four is Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, and Tankard. Theres even a vinyl called the Teutonic Four with all four bands names listed on the cover. That's the way it is, you can only accept it. Tankard belong, they were always peers of the other three and the never stopped pumping out album after album and still have a very large fanbase, much larger than Paradox and Holy Moses.

Huh! Never heard that, maybe it's just a New England metalhead thing. Basically no one I know into metal even knows who Tankard are, whereas I feel like most metalheads have at least heard of Holy Moses.

And honestly, Tankard aren't that popular - at least not in the states. They're playing MDF, and they're pretty damn low on the lineup.

I don't think judging by popularity in the US is a good indicator of anything (other than, you know, popularity in the US). Just sayin'

[Sgt. B]

Tankard are definitely more popular than Holy Moses...

+1

[cowboy71]

I don't think judging by popularity in the US is a good indicator of anything (other than, you know, popularity in the US). Just sayin'

THIS. +1.

[Spence]

Point taken everyone.

I've just never been a fan of the whole "fours" of thrash, since there's some 15 or so classic 80's thrash bands out of Germany ALONE who I love. haha

[Azazel101]

I don't think judging by popularity in the US is a good indicator of anything (other than, you know, popularity in the US). Just sayin'

THIS. +1.

I have heard a hell of a lot more about Tankard than I have Holly Mosses and that is coming state side.
Well, that might come from the fact that I live in Wisconsin and their music where our drinking songs in high school

[cowboy71]

Motorhead are doing their own cruise.

Cannot see them doing 70K now:

https://www.facebook.com/motorheadcruise

[Sgt. B]

I read a review of one of Scott Ian's spoken word shows. He supposedly confirmed (unoffically) that Anthrax will be on the Motorboat Cruise. I would say that this would add Anthrax to the ruled out list.

[X-Thor]

I read a review of one of Scott Ian's spoken word shows. He supposedly confirmed (unoffically) that Anthrax will be on the Motorboat Cruise. I would say that this would add Anthrax to the ruled out list.

Anthrax and Motorhead in one cruise?

I suspect we'll have many deserters for 2015.

[Spence]

I read a review of one of Scott Ian's spoken word shows. He supposedly confirmed (unoffically) that Anthrax will be on the Motorboat Cruise. I would say that this would add Anthrax to the ruled out list.

Anthrax and Motorhead in one cruise?

I suspect we'll have many deserters for 2015.

Doubt it.

Anthrax is EVERYWHERE all the time, i'm sure most people who are interested in this cruise has either seen or AT LEAST had the chance to see if they wanted to, Anthrax within the past three or four years. And they show no sign on slowing down.

Motorhead might cause a few deserters, but even there, I doubt it. I feel like the vast majority of people who'd go to the Motorboat are either DIEHARD Motorhead fans(like the diehard Manowar fans who follow them from country to country) and Motorhead fans from obscure countries like South Africa who'd never have any chance to see them on their hometurf.

Honestly, there's way too many cruises now. It's hard to keep track of them all, there's been... what? Four prog cruises within the past two months?

[DJ Old Man Stares]

Don't think they'll be many deserters this year. Motorhead and Anthrax play most places all the time. I see no reason to pay about $2,000 to see a handful of bands that I've already seen. I always thought the more obscure bands or bands that just don't play that much were a big draw for the UMC cruises.

[Spence]

Don't think they'll be many deserters this year. Motorhead and Anthrax play most places all the time. I see no reason to pay about $2,000 to see a handful of bands that I've already seen. I always thought the more obscure bands or bands that just don't play that much were a big draw for the UMC cruises.

Exactly, and this is why the Mayhem Cruise sold so little it was cancelled. Who the hell would pay that much and travel that far for a bunch of bands they could see in their respective state or country once a year? Absurd.

[DrinkMoxie]

Don't think they'll be many deserters this year. Motorhead and Anthrax play most places all the time. I see no reason to pay about $2,000 to see a handful of bands that I've already seen. I always thought the more obscure bands or bands that just don't play that much were a big draw for the UMC cruises.

agree.. gimme all the bands that make most people say, "Who?"

[meshuggah]

Don't think they'll be many deserters this year. Motorhead and Anthrax play most places all the time. I see no reason to pay about $2,000 to see a handful of bands that I've already seen. I always thought the more obscure bands or bands that just don't play that much were a big draw for the UMC cruises.

agree.. gimme all the bands that make most people say, "Who?"

I don't think Roger Daltrey would consider doing this cruise

[doomguy]

Don't think they'll be many deserters this year. Motorhead and Anthrax play most places all the time. I see no reason to pay about $2,000 to see a handful of bands that I've already seen. I always thought the more obscure bands or bands that just don't play that much were a big draw for the UMC cruises.

agree.. gimme all the bands that make most people say, "Who?"

I don't think Roger Daltrey would consider doing this cruise

Nice one.

[deathmetalpat]

Any band full of members who live for the NAMM show.To those bands that is their once a year get together to see people ,same exact time as the cruise this year.So Opeth are most likely out.

[doomguy]

When is the NAMM show next year? I may be wrong, but I thought it was from 15 - 18 Jan, which is not the exact same time as the cruise. Cruise doesn't start until 22nd, which puts them within the realm of possibility.

[deathmetalpat]

When is the NAMM show next year? I may be wrong, but I thought it was from 15 - 18 Jan, which is not the exact same time as the cruise. Cruise doesn't start until 22nd, which puts them within the realm of possibility.

January 22-25 according to this website http://www.namm.org/thenammshow/2014 which I believe is correct .If you Google "NAMM 2015 "the top results give you January 15-19 but those are junk sites.

[SatansWrath]

Watain.
I love to see them on the boat but endless interviews makes them to dark/kult or simply misantropic minds for a cruise. But I would be happy to see them on a cruise though.

[Dundee]

How's about some real party rock'n'roll:
AIRBOURNE
ROSE TATTOO
D.A.D.
KROKUS
VENGEANCE

And some real heavy and power metal
SAXON
JAG PANZER
MORGANA LEFAY
STRATOVARIUS
EMERALD (Swiss)
BRAINSTORM
PERTNESS
HYSTERICA

Also some more heavier stuff
HAIL OF BULLETS and/or ASPHYX
CORONER
MACHINE HEAD
ENTRAILS
FATE CONTROL (Swiss)
TANKARD

And some melodic bands
GOTTHARD
THE POODLES
TREAT

and MAGO DE OZ

[Soundchaser]

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[Dundee]

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[Jotunheimr]

Jon Oliva's Pain (don't think Jon would ever do a cruise)

Yeah, unfortunately I can see that. Personally, I would kill for a Savatage reunion show but the chances of that are slim to none.

[doomguy]

You can officially rule out Van Canto. I saw Ross comment on a friends status saying they will unfortunately never get to play there, so I asked him about it tonight. Apparently Andy posted a message on a German forum telling everyone to stop asking for them because he'll never get them because he thinks they're an embarrassment to metal.