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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Memnoch » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:33 am

    Razor Ramon wrote:The Sirens Latin American tour just got announced. They start in Mexico City on January 31st, they better be on the cruise first.


    I'd be really happy if The Sirens were announced for 70k. Or just Anneke. Or just Kari Rueslåtten. :beerwink:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Azazel101 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:44 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    Razor Ramon wrote:The Sirens Latin American tour just got announced. They start in Mexico City on January 31st, they better be on the cruise first.


    I'd be really happy if The Sirens were announced for 70k. Or just Anneke. Or just Kari Rueslåtten. :beerwink:

    oh please no! maybe The Gathering with Anneke, well, could be good nap time.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:49 am

    - The trainee who was making the videos is dead.
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    - The trainee who is making facebook posts is ... alive, and has even made a new forum, specializing himself in "useless" stuff.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by bodomdragon » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:14 am

    Azazel101 wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:
    Razor Ramon wrote:The Sirens Latin American tour just got announced. They start in Mexico City on January 31st, they better be on the cruise first.


    I'd be really happy if The Sirens were announced for 70k. Or just Anneke. Or just Kari Rueslåtten. :beerwink:

    oh please no! maybe The Gathering with Anneke, well, could be good nap time.

    Taking a look at Dragon Productions, I'm quite sure we can count on Anneke being onbroad, one way or another.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Memnoch » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:15 am

    I hope they book Hamferð too if they take more from the Dragon roster. :beerwink:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Memnoch » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:19 am

    Oh, and regarding The Sirens being booked. We're most definitely lacking in female fronted bands. I think we have three female fronted bands against, what, 28 male fronted bands. Manly metal is way over-represented!

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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Azazel101 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:41 am

    I guess if you are drunk enough any metal can sound good.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Phoenix » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:09 am

    Memnoch wrote:Oh, and regarding The Sirens being booked. We're most definitely lacking in female fronted bands. I think we have three female fronted bands against, what, 28 male fronted bands. Manly metal is way over-represented!

    :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:


    I wouldn't mind Nightwish or Edenbridge but I just prefer male vocals in my metal. Maybe I haven't heard enough female fronted music, but a lot of the ones I have heard just don't excite my eardrums in the same way. Alissa kicks some major ass though.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by meshuggah » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:12 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:Oh, and regarding The Sirens being booked. We're most definitely lacking in female fronted bands. I think we have three female fronted bands against, what, 28 male fronted bands. Manly metal is way over-represented!

    :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:


    I wouldn't mind Nightwish or Edenbridge but I just prefer male vocals in my metal. Maybe I haven't heard enough female fronted music, but a lot of the ones I have heard just don't excite my eardrums in the same way. Alissa kicks some major ass though.


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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by DrinkMoxie » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:27 am

    Phoenix wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:Oh, and regarding The Sirens being booked. We're most definitely lacking in female fronted bands. I think we have three female fronted bands against, what, 28 male fronted bands. Manly metal is way over-represented!

    :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:


    I wouldn't mind Nightwish or Edenbridge but I just prefer male vocals in my metal. Maybe I haven't heard enough female fronted music, but a lot of the ones I have heard just don't excite my eardrums in the same way. Alissa kicks some major ass though.

    check out Unleash The Archers and Crisis... female fronted metal bands that aren't pop vocals, and aren't mainstream style stuff either... just really great metal that happens to have female vocalists
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Phoenix » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:52 am

    Quoting is hard on phones. Thanks guys, noted. I will take a listen :deathmetal:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Mr.Kito » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:20 am

    Phoenix wrote:Quoting is hard on phones. Thanks guys, noted. I will take a listen :deathmetal:


    Try "No Way" and "HellArise" :deathmetal:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by DragonLordJones » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:41 am

    Phoenix wrote:Quoting is hard on phones. Thanks guys, noted. I will take a listen :deathmetal:


    also give Izegrim a listen :cheers: :beerhorns:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by cowboy71 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:19 pm

    Venom has been leaked:

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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by bodomdragon » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:22 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:Venom has been leaked:

    Image

    Which confirms that Andy/UMC have some bands confirmed which they are not announcing. One can only wonder why, and I will keep hoping that a Christmas calendar is coming.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by cowboy71 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:29 pm

    Apparently translated that article also says there will be a 'listening party' for the new Blind Guardian album that comes out on the 30th of January!!

    Something that, you know, would have been awesome to hear if it was officially announced. Now thanks to this leak it will be a 'meh knew that already - next' kinda thing when the skipper gets around to actually telling us.
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    by Mr.Kito » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:33 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: it will be a 'meh knew that already - next' kinda thing when the skipper gets around to actually telling us.



    That's what REALLY annoys me about UMC :bitch: :bitch:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by acidbasement » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:37 pm

    Seriously, where the fuck is the Skipper? This is getting stupid.

    Though I'm really happy about that BG listening party.
    motherfucker announce some bands #FORTHWITH and let us book
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:45 pm

    I would absolutely bet that the skipper has at least 10 bands anounced that he doesn't tell us. Come on, do you really think it's possible to organise dates/tours only days before the cruise ?

    That reminds me that, with the barge to hell, we've learned the cancellation of hypocrisy the saturday. When the merchandise was being sold; there was no "hypocrisy" logo on the shirt. Do you think it's possible to make shirts in only 2 days including a sunday ? It's what i call "not far from being mishonnest".
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Mr.Kito » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:45 pm

    acidbasement wrote:Seriously, where the fuck is the Skipper? This is getting stupid.

    Though I'm really happy about that BG listening party.


    But a surprise announcement would make you even more happier, right?


    I must second (literally) this:
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Stained Class » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:21 pm

    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:I would absolutely bet that the skipper has at least 10 bands anounced that he doesn't tell us. Come on, do you really think it's possible to organise dates/tours only days before the cruise ?

    That reminds me that, with the barge to hell, we've learned the cancellation of hypocrisy the saturday. When the merchandise was being sold; there was no "hypocrisy" logo on the shirt. Do you think it's possible to make shirts in only 2 days including a sunday ? It's what i call "not far from being mishonnest".

    yes it is possible and that's what umc does, and most festivals do it. They have the shirts printed in Miami the day before the cruise.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by FrenchMachoBoy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:19 pm

    Stained Class wrote: They have the shirts printed in Miami the day before the cruise.
    Do you have a source for this ?
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Speedy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:43 pm

    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:
    Stained Class wrote: They have the shirts printed in Miami the day before the cruise.
    Do you have a source for this ?

    I don't doubt it for a second. T-shirt printing is quite fast, and if they have the front already printed and have made the deal for printing just before the cruise in advance, getting the backs printed just in time is no problem.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by SaraMarie » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:27 pm

    DrinkMoxie wrote:
    Phoenix wrote:
    Memnoch wrote:Oh, and regarding The Sirens being booked. We're most definitely lacking in female fronted bands. I think we have three female fronted bands against, what, 28 male fronted bands. Manly metal is way over-represented!

    :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:


    I wouldn't mind Nightwish or Edenbridge but I just prefer male vocals in my metal. Maybe I haven't heard enough female fronted music, but a lot of the ones I have heard just don't excite my eardrums in the same way. Alissa kicks some major ass though.

    check out Unleash The Archers and Crisis... female fronted metal bands that aren't pop vocals, and aren't mainstream style stuff either... just really great metal that happens to have female vocalists


    Crisis was definitely really cool at its time, and I have a soft spot for anything Karyn does, just because it's the first "legit" female-fronted metal I heard. That said, some of her vocals are, err, interesting. It's definitely a very defunct band at this point, though.

    Cripper I can definitely get behind, though they most likely won't be on this year. I like Izegrim. Enabler is fucking awesome. There was also an all-female black metal band that opened for Goat Whore when I saw them, Mortals (not a local band). They seemed like really normal, cool chicks who happened to just be playing metal. They also got right in the pit for Goat Whore. :metalguy:

    I think the original bitching was about "manly" vs "girly" anyway, by the way. There's lots of awesome women in metal that won't count for "girly" metal, because what's actually wanted there is some sing-songy chick in a sexy outfit. I can't listen to much of that stuff, but hey we're all nerds here, I won't judge.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Razor Ramon » Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:03 pm

    deathmetalpat wrote:
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    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:I remind you that The Gathering is SPLITTED!

    The Gathering is not split, they just did a show and I am going to see them in 2 weeks.


    I talked to Anneke Van Giersbergen and she told me that neither her or The Sirens have had any contact from 70000 Tons. She did say it would be cool to play the cruise though. It looks like pretty much every other Dragon Productions band is either playing this year or has played before except her.

    I hope she has talked to UMC and just can't say anything until after the reunion shows.Adding her with The Sirens,The Gathering or even by herself would be a great add.This years cruise is in dire need of something like this to balance out the Line-up,last year Haggard was the band added near the end that made me happy to have stuck it out.Going to Holland to see The Gathering 25th anniversary is so fucking metal :viking: have a good time.


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    by meshuggah » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:32 pm

    Wife just reminded me how amazing Straight Line Stitch was the two times we saw them. Alexis Brown, their lead singer, is incredible.
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    by Phoenix » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:07 pm

    meshuggah wrote:Wife just reminded me how amazing Straight Line Stitch was the two times we saw them. Alexis Brown, their lead singer, is incredible.


    So much metal powered by women, awesome to see guys, thanks =D

    And to address what SaraMarie was talking about, yeah I suppose the guys were mostly talking about "manly vs girly" metal, which is most of the female fronted metal I've listened to other than Arch Enemy. So I was making an observation as someone who didn't have enough exposure to judge.

    Also on that note, I am also getting really tired of sing-song (as you put it) metal. I don't blame anyone that likes it (unless it's Amaranthe and then I will add my two cents and scowl a little bit) but it's really not for me anymore.
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    by Stained Class » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:24 pm

    FrenchMachoBoy wrote:
    Stained Class wrote: They have the shirts printed in Miami the day before the cruise.
    Do you have a source for this ?

    I forget who told me this but if I see anyone from UMC at DTA tonight I'll ask em.
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    by cowboy71 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:22 pm

    The pillow fight is up on the website - I think that must have only been added recently:

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    by DrinkMoxie » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:39 am

    SaraMarie wrote:Crisis was definitely really cool at its time, and I have a soft spot for anything Karyn does, just because it's the first "legit" female-fronted metal I heard. That said, some of her vocals are, err, interesting. It's definitely a very defunct band at this point, though.

    Cripper I can definitely get behind, though they most likely won't be on this year. I like Izegrim. Enabler is fucking awesome. There was also an all-female black metal band that opened for Goat Whore when I saw them, Mortals (not a local band). They seemed like really normal, cool chicks who happened to just be playing metal. They also got right in the pit for Goat Whore. :metalguy:

    I think the original bitching was about "manly" vs "girly" anyway, by the way. There's lots of awesome women in metal that won't count for "girly" metal, because what's actually wanted there is some sing-songy chick in a sexy outfit. I can't listen to much of that stuff, but hey we're all nerds here, I won't judge.

    Karyn's new project Gospel Of The Witches was just signed to Century Media, and what I've heard is awesome
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    by Mr.Kito » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:45 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:The pillow fight is up on the website - I think that must have only been added recently:

    http://70000tons.com/voyage/special-onboard-events/


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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by SaraMarie » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:33 pm

    Origin seems like a pretty good pick for a pillow fight. When it comes to crowd participation, those guys are nuts.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Metalwrath » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:43 pm

    The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.The Kind of comedy commercial shit you'd expect at places like Wacken.maybe Andy would need to remember that this is not heavy metal disneyland or metal fancy dress costume party.(one already exists as rock bitch boat in Latvia during haloween) It's a metal cruise for i know this may sound shocking (metalheads) and not hipsters who want to play fancy dress competition at metal cruise.I repeat this is not Wacken..if you want it like this than please fuck off back tom Wacken and act like the Ballerman Mongos and stay there.
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Phoenix » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:49 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.The Kind of comedy commercial shit you'd expect at places like Wacken.maybe Andy would need to remember that this is not heavy metal disneyland or metal fancy dress costume party.(one already exists as rock bitch boat in Latvia during haloween) It's a metal cruise for i know this may sound shocking (metalheads) and not hipsters who want to play fancy dress competition at metal cruise.I repeat this is not Wacken..if you want it like this than please fuck off back tom Wacken and act like the Ballerman Mongos and stay there.


    So go to the other set? Metalheads get to have fun like anyone else. Yes, even at black metal shows. I don't like Amaranthe, but the people that like it are free to. As long as they don't force it on me. You don't HAVE to grab a pillow if you don't want to.
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    by Jotunheimr » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:41 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.The Kind of comedy commercial shit you'd expect at places like Wacken.maybe Andy would need to remember that this is not heavy metal disneyland or metal fancy dress costume party.(one already exists as rock bitch boat in Latvia during haloween) It's a metal cruise for i know this may sound shocking (metalheads) and not hipsters who want to play fancy dress competition at metal cruise.I repeat this is not Wacken..if you want it like this than please fuck off back tom Wacken and act like the Ballerman Mongos and stay there.


    When I read your post, I immediately thought of this. "No smiling, no moshing, no fun allowed" :lol:

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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by acidbasement » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:05 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.The Kind of comedy commercial shit you'd expect at places like Wacken.maybe Andy would need to remember that this is not heavy metal disneyland or metal fancy dress costume party.(one already exists as rock bitch boat in Latvia during haloween) It's a metal cruise for i know this may sound shocking (metalheads) and not hipsters who want to play fancy dress competition at metal cruise.I repeat this is not Wacken..if you want it like this than please fuck off back tom Wacken and act like the Ballerman Mongos and stay there.


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    by Laura » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:42 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:
    The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.

    Here, here! I actually agree with this completely....really....

    I've always loved Pete's posts going back to the early days of the forum. Heck, there was even a whole thread devoted to him back then started by Disaster Area (Craig) called "The World According to Metalwrath" where people posted their favorite Metalwrath quotes, rants, and so on....if anyone is interested, it's on the "off course" forum. Please note this was not done to put him down in any way,....far from it....rather to celebrate his unique presence here.

    MW is not afraid to speak his mind....he never "minces words" .....I appreciate his brashness. I've known few people who express themselves in this very opinionated way....and for some reason I'm not offended at all - even if I disagree.

    But yeah - good call MW - the pillow fight is "fucking retarded." :bangers: :lol:
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    Found the thread .... :lol: fun times from 2011 and many a long gone 70k forum fiends...
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    Re: Another Scouting Party?

    by Dundee » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:34 am

    Metalwrath wrote:The Pillow fight is one of the most fucking retarded events i've ever heard of at any metal event.The Kind of comedy commercial shit you'd expect at places like Wacken.maybe Andy would need to remember that this is not heavy metal disneyland or metal fancy dress costume party.(one already exists as rock bitch boat in Latvia during haloween) It's a metal cruise for i know this may sound shocking (metalheads) and not hipsters who want to play fancy dress competition at metal cruise.I repeat this is not Wacken..if you want it like this than please fuck off back tom Wacken and act like the Ballerman Mongos and stay there.


    I'm wondering if you ever have been to Wacken? Yes, there are some idiots and clowns. But for sure it's a minority. Most of the people who goes to Wacken are metalheads who goes there because of the bands. The worst thing in metal is this stupid "true" vs. "untrue" behavior. And no, I don't do the pillow fight but for sure I don't get upset about this. Neither do I about the beer belly competition and other so called "Ballerman" stuff. Some people really should see some things a bit more relaxed. I think we all want the same: to have a great time on board with great bands, nice people and gallons of beer. If there are some actions or bands you don't like then just move to another stage, bar, deck, whatever.
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