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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:03 pm

    Mr.Kito wrote:Well... let's just.. you know..

    carry on with the metal conversation?



    I don't like metal anymore. There aren't enough band announcements. Let's put on some Enya and talk about environmental ethics.

    There's a case to be made for eating grass-fed cattle, Phoenix. GHG-wise, I'll concede that they fart a lot of methane, but they also fill the important ecological grazer niche that was left vacant when the bison were all killed. There's a lot more biodiversity on a cattle pasture than there is on a soybean field, which is what you'd have a lot more of if nobody ate beef. Grain-fed beef is shite though, I won't argue that.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Dimma » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:12 pm

    I think he'll announce a band today.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Warphine » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:37 pm

    Dimma wrote:I think he'll announce a band today.


    I hope you are right!
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by onenight » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:27 pm

    Meat eaters are part of the problem not the solution???

    I didn't know there was a problem, and a solution to what?/ Am I missing something here?
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:41 pm

    onenight wrote:Meat eaters are part of the problem not the solution???

    I didn't know there was a problem, and a solution to what?/ Am I missing something here?


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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by mooyagi » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:23 pm

    Warphine wrote:BTW, it was clearly a joke. For those of you that know me knew I was kidding.


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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by onenight » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:53 pm

    acidbasement wrote:
    onenight wrote:Meat eaters are part of the problem not the solution???

    I didn't know there was a problem, and a solution to what?/ Am I missing something here?


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    If everything was perfect we would have more band announcements! :bitch:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by LauraW » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:00 pm

    acidbasement wrote:
    onenight wrote:Meat eaters are part of the problem not the solution???

    I didn't know there was a problem, and a solution to what?/ Am I missing something here?


    There are no problems. Everything is perfect, and it's a miracle.


    There is a hunger problem in the world. Cattle take up approximately 10 times the resources (land, water, fuel, etc.) to raise as an equivalent amount of protein from vegetable sources. While I assume that nobody who can afford to go on this cruise has to deal with malnutrition, billions of people in the world do. When we purchase a Big Mac from beef that was raised on land cleared in the Amazon we are, in essence, taking away food from people living subsistence lifestyles in that area. In other places like Africa, due to a rising wealthy elite class in cities, farms are being converted to cattle which causes another problem. As someone mentioned earlier, cattle also produce a great deal of methane which contributes to global warming as well; more than automobiles do by most estimates.

    I have no idea if either of these are the "problem" to which Alyssa was referring, but consumption of meat, particularly beef, does cause problems.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:40 pm

    Yup, eating less beef and only eating grass-fed beef would be good things.

    Hey, let's change the subject. What's everyone's favourite statistical test? I really like the Mann-Whitney U test. It beats the hell out of getting band announcements, amirite?
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    by mooyagi » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:43 pm

    Now would be a good time for a Cattle Decapitation announcement :P
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Warphine » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:44 pm

    mooyagi wrote:
    Warphine wrote:BTW, it was clearly a joke. For those of you that know me knew I was kidding.


    Tough crowd :?


    You laughed. That's good enough for me! :heavydrink:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Laura » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:03 pm

    Oh man....
    ....this is what happens when Andy dicks around with the announcements...... ;)

    Seriously though.... I'm sympathetic to several of the viewpoints mentioned here from the hard core vegan idea to the meatlover.....I'm somewhere in between as I've never (nor plan to) given up animal products altogether, yet I'm deep down unhappy with the the "idea" of eating an animal of any kind. So, yeah - I'm conflicted. :? ;)
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    by DragonLordJones » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:06 am

    I ate a vegan once .... is that a meat or a vegetable ? :cheers: :givebeer: :beerhorns: I can assure it wasn't a cow, maybe a sheep/lamb (far past a cherry)a bush of some type :lol: :lol: :lol: very juicy
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    by bodomdragon » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:33 am

    Jesus fucking christ, look what Andy's done to all of us, talking about cows, grass and world hunger. I almost forgot this is a cruise forum :D :D :D

    Have a nice no-announcement friday everyone :headbanger:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Jotunheimr » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:28 am

    bodomdragon wrote:Have a nice no-announcement friday everyone :headbanger:


    You jinxed it! Now we might actually have a band announcement tomorrow. :P
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by onenight » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:40 am

    LauraW wrote:
    acidbasement wrote:
    onenight wrote:Meat eaters are part of the problem not the solution???

    I didn't know there was a problem, and a solution to what?/ Am I missing something here?


    There are no problems. Everything is perfect, and it's a miracle.


    There is a hunger problem in the world. Cattle take up approximately 10 times the resources (land, water, fuel, etc.) to raise as an equivalent amount of protein from vegetable sources. While I assume that nobody who can afford to go on this cruise has to deal with malnutrition, billions of people in the world do. When we purchase a Big Mac from beef that was raised on land cleared in the Amazon we are, in essence, taking away food from people living subsistence lifestyles in that area. In other places like Africa, due to a rising wealthy elite class in cities, farms are being converted to cattle which causes another problem. As someone mentioned earlier, cattle also produce a great deal of methane which contributes to global warming as well; more than automobiles do by most estimates.

    I have no idea if either of these are the "problem" to which Alyssa was referring, but consumption of meat, particularly beef, does cause problems.


    Global warming? If you lived in northern Indiana you wouldn't think there was global warming. It's cold as fuck here. Always has been, always will be. The winters keep getting longer and colder every year. That would be global "cooling" This is why people go south in the winter where it's warm. Always has been, always will be.

    Now, let's get back to more band announcements. :cool:
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    by Mr.Kito » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:51 am

    Jotunheimr wrote:
    bodomdragon wrote:Have a nice no-announcement friday everyone :headbanger:


    You jinxed it! Now we might actually have a band announcement tomorrow. :P


    Now you just un-jinxed his jinx :cry:
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    by bodomdragon » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:06 am

    Mr.Kito wrote:
    Jotunheimr wrote:
    bodomdragon wrote:Have a nice no-announcement friday everyone :headbanger:


    You jinxed it! Now we might actually have a band announcement tomorrow. :P


    Now you just un-jinxed his jinx :cry:

    We are MOST CERTAINLY not getting an announcement today.

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    by Mr.Kito » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:33 am

    bodomdragon wrote:
    We are MOST CERTAINLY not getting an announcement today.

    *Crosses fingers secretly*


    yeaaah!! let's NOT get an announcement today :roll:
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    by meshuggah » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:08 am

    Laura wrote:Oh man....
    ....this is what happens when Andy dicks around with the announcements...... ;)


    Let's get Andy Dick to do some stand-up...or just use "Andy Dick" as a nickname for someone (?)
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    meshuggah wrote: "Andy Dick"


    :lol: :lol: :lol:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:16 pm

    I just participated in the slaying of a cow. Does Andy announce bands in response to ritual sacrifice?

    Lollers at the guy who thought Indiana being cold in winter disproves global warming.
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    by klons » Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:32 pm

    acidbasement wrote:Lollers at the guy who thought Indiana being cold in winter disproves global warming.


    I think a Canadian that hasn't seen snow half way through December proves it completely :lol:
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by onenight » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:54 pm

    acidbasement wrote:I just participated in the slaying of a cow. Does Andy announce bands in response to ritual sacrifice?

    Lollers at the guy who thought Indiana being cold in winter disproves global warming.


    I don't think Inidiana winters disproves anything. I was just fucking with the person who takes life too seriously. Eat meat, don't eat meat, I don't give a rats ass. I have more important things to worry about, like trying to stay warm in this cold ass climate. Where's global warming when you need it!!?
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    by Razor Ramon » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:06 pm

    More important things like band announcements, lets fucking go!
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by acidbasement » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:03 pm

    Band announcements suck. Metal is stupid. I want a pony!
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    by ShoreSlayer » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:19 pm

    Global warming and AndyDick both get equal blame for my sweaty balls!

    Where's the announcements????
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    by Odgand » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:29 am

    IS ANDY CANCELING THE SHIP OR WHAT!!!??? :bitch:

    With all the respect you deserve... Don't be a badass and give a response to your loyal costumers!!! :cry:
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    by Madkill » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:53 am

    ... actually, if he WAS badass, he WOULD make announcements.
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    by meshuggah » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:26 am

    Madkill wrote:... actually, if he WAS badass, he WOULD make announcements.


    Are you suggesting that our beloved skipper is a PUSSY?????
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    by slayergeek » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:53 pm

    I agree the skipper deserve a lot of respect and is not a 'pussy'

    That being said, we are at 40 days until sail with 28 bands to announce. I hope he did not bite off more then he could chew by doubling the size of this years trip. Bigger is better..until the things get so big they collapse on themselves. I am not rooting for that in the least, and am hoping behind the scenes it is all coming together exactly the way they wanted...but would feel MUCH better if announcement were coming.
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    by Razor Ramon » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:31 pm

    You would think that the guy might want to get more cabins booked by announcing some bands that people want to see, announcing them a month before the cruise doesn't give much time to get a vacation in order..
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by LauraW » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:41 pm

    slayergeek wrote:I agree the skipper deserve a lot of respect and is not a 'pussy'

    That being said, we are at 40 days until sail with 28 bands to announce. I hope he did not bite off more then he could chew by doubling the size of this years trip. Bigger is better..until the things get so big they collapse on themselves. I am not rooting for that in the least, and am hoping behind the scenes it is all coming together exactly the way they wanted...but would feel MUCH better if announcement were coming.


    I am starting to wonder if so few cabins have sold that he can't afford to pay the bands that he'd initially contacted/booked/whatever and now he's trying to play let's make a deal or get lesser-known, cheaper bands to replace them
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    by biertroll » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:17 pm

    If he would announces the damn bands faster, the ship would sell out. The number one thing from keeping people interested in the boat from actually booking every year, even year after year of solid diverse lineups is the lack of announcements so close to departure. Andy, if you need someone to help expedite this process (because I know booking agents are slow ass bastards when it comes to this), I would be happy to help (many others with more experience I know would be happy to help too). Expedite is my favorite word & I hate to see the cruise do so horribly when Andy, you and I know your product, no matter how many copycats try, is one of a kind. And you can't say it's doing well this time around, just see how many cabins are left. You need to get something figured out, your act together, whatever is going on, over and done with. I personally think it's a mistake not to think that MDF is huge competetion, especially with the second fest. Despite it being land based they are the biggest US festival next to the cruise. You have spawned thousands of cruisers, and by the slew of sold out hotels in FLL, preparty events, ect. very organized ones at that. MDF does one thing 70K fails at every year. Communication. If enough 70K cruisers requested it, I'm positive the MDF guys wouldn't hesitate a thought at their own try at a cruise. Don't forget, they have a good product too.
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    by cowboy71 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:59 pm

    biertroll wrote:.... I'm positive the MDF guys wouldn't hesitate a thought at their own try at a cruise. Don't forget, they have a good product too.


    An MDF-branded cruise. That might indeed be an interesting one!

    Not one that would interest me as I'm not a death fan, but a cruise with the MDF branding would garner a lot of publicity.
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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by Jotunheimr » Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:11 pm

    cowboy71 wrote:
    biertroll wrote:.... I'm positive the MDF guys wouldn't hesitate a thought at their own try at a cruise. Don't forget, they have a good product too.


    An MDF-branded cruise. That might indeed be an interesting one!

    Not one that would interest me as I'm not a death fan, but a cruise with the MDF branding would garner a lot of publicity.


    An MDF cruise would provide competition for the Barge, which might make Andy want to plan some more runs for BTH in the future.
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    by cowboy71 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:11 am

    Flashback. Summer Breeze, August 15th 2014.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4xquixyk4Q

    The last 30 seconds - Andy PROMISES that the BAND announcements won't drag out like last year (except one BIG surprise).

    Last year with 39 days to go we had 23 band announcements to come. Currently we have at least 28.

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    Re: New VENOM Album World Premiere Onbroad!

    by DragonLordJones » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:23 am

    didn't the skipper say we would all the bands before we set sail? and that is what 39 days to go .... he has plenty of time yet to piss us off our make us very happy .... yes I would like more time to listen to some of the bands yet to be announced , yet I know there has been a few bands that didn't know they were even on the boat until 2 weeks before we set sail, so don't sweat it ? let us scream like motherfuckers and say we want to know sooner so we can become more familiar with their music .
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    by RootOfAllEvil » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:24 am

    Not counting weekend days (with their notorious lack of announcments), we're now down to ONE ANNOUNCEMENT PER DAY.

    Time to get on with it!
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    by cowboy71 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:32 am

    DragonLordJones wrote:didn't the skipper say we would all the bands before we set sail?

    Yeah as I said on facebook, him saying the band announcements "won't drag out like last year" - last year we had 2 bands announced the day we sailed. So this year he could announce every single remaining band the day before we sail and technically it hasn't dragged out like last year :P

    But that is kind of like pissing on our backs and telling us its raining.
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