The Official 70000TONS OF METAL 2015 Megathread - Page 18

by **DJ Old Man Stares** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:14 pm

bodomdragon wrote:
Memnoch wrote:No Halloween announcements, no Yule announcements, no New Year's announcements. Most likely more than half of the remaining bands will be announced in January.

I hope Andy learnt the lesson and proves you wrong. Some of us want, or rather, NEED time to discover some of the bands that will be onbroad. For instance, I am lately enjoying Threshold so much, and I had never heard of them before. Now I can't wait to see them live, but if they had been announced one week before departing I would have totally missed the chance to enjoy them. I don't want that to happen.

This point come up often, usually worded differently each time, yet every time it is indeed a valid point. I would like time to order my CD's and have the appropriate time to listen to some new potential favorites. It's hard to do that past November.

by **AlixD** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:13 am

Wish list:
Rotting Christ, Samael, Borknagar, Arcturus, Primordial.

Metalwrath · by **Metalwrath** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:46 am

I'm gonna say it now because nobody is highlighting it clearly enough.
Andy you said about being active more with the people on the cruise thats fair enough.You've done that via facebook etc.Copying things from the forums onto facebook and useing them as 'ideas'
You still haven't adressed the band announcment issues.
It's blatant trolling.
Good for you.you've sold most the cabins without announcing many bands each year.What are you trying to prove at this stage?
Or is it to intentionally pressure people to book without knowing the lineups? I guess that makes sense in a way as it makes it less a worry about what bands you actually have to book.

I just don't see the point in still doing this.The business is a success.The fact that over half your consumer base is comeing from outside of America is proof of that.That won't change most likely.
I think give up the charade and start announcing bands more regularly.you've got most the sales anyway.Not gonna make a difference.but maybe you may have some customers happier about it.

I'm personally going back to see friends i haven't seen in a while and to check out the new boat.
But bands do matter when you consider the cost being put in for people.

by **bodomdragon** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:12 am

Personally, I think the explanation to the silence must be really simple, and it goes like this for Andy:

1. Start setting the cruise up for next year.
2. OK, let's start with some killer announcements which are gonna make many people's jaws drop.
3. Get massive bookings because of the first announcements and because of blind bookers and repeaters.
4. OMG! We have only just begun this thing and I already sold like 70-75% of tickets! Time to take a break. (At this point, I am assuming Andy's life goes further than organising the cruise, like having other jobs, duties or so).
5. Spend X months doing something else with your life. Totally forget about the cruise because, come on, it's getting sold out by itself! (Needless to say, this is where we are right now)
6. After X months: time to start working on the cruise again. OMG, while I was out we reached 90% cabins sold! OK let's get the rest of the bands and close this thing.
7. Profit.

The way I see it, that's what happened last year and the pattern is being repeated now. I might be plain wrong of course, but I can't find a better explanation.

Website · by **jodionline** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:00 am

I can say it only again:

I will not book again blindly as for this year cruise. This year for me was a little bit disappointing, because of the bands. For me last year was great and if I book again I need some bands which I really want to see on the boat. The most important thing on a festival are the bands not the people. Sorry.

by **acidbasement** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:47 am

bodomdragon wrote:Personally, I think the explanation to the silence must be really simple, and it goes like this for Andy:

1. Start setting the cruise up for next year.
2. OK, let's start with some killer announcements which are gonna make many people's jaws drop.
3. Get massive bookings because of the first announcements and because of blind bookers and repeaters.
4. OMG! We have only just begun this thing and I already sold like 70-75% of tickets! Time to take a break. (At this point, I am assuming Andy's life goes further than organising the cruise, like having other jobs, duties or so).
5. Spend X months doing something else with your life. Totally forget about the cruise because, come on, it's getting sold out by itself! (Needless to say, this is where we are right now)
6. After X months: time to start working on the cruise again. OMG, while I was out we reached 90% cabins sold! OK let's get the rest of the bands and close this thing.
7. Profit.

The way I see it, that's what happened last year and the pattern is being repeated now. I might be plain wrong of course, but I can't find a better explanation.

I think this logic would hold if there were still only 2000 tickets to sell in total. 90% of 2000 tickets is 1800, but that's only 60% of 3000 - that's not where UMC wants to be when Andy gets back from his other stuff/vacation/etc.

by **bodomdragon** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:32 am

acidbasement wrote:
bodomdragon wrote:Personally, I think the explanation to the silence must be really simple, and it goes like this for Andy:

1. Start setting the cruise up for next year.
2. OK, let's start with some killer announcements which are gonna make many people's jaws drop.
3. Get massive bookings because of the first announcements and because of blind bookers and repeaters.
4. OMG! We have only just begun this thing and I already sold like 70-75% of tickets! Time to take a break. (At this point, I am assuming Andy's life goes further than organising the cruise, like having other jobs, duties or so).
5. Spend X months doing something else with your life. Totally forget about the cruise because, come on, it's getting sold out by itself! (Needless to say, this is where we are right now)
6. After X months: time to start working on the cruise again. OMG, while I was out we reached 90% cabins sold! OK let's get the rest of the bands and close this thing.
7. Profit.

The way I see it, that's what happened last year and the pattern is being repeated now. I might be plain wrong of course, but I can't find a better explanation.

I think this logic would hold if there were still only 2000 tickets to sell in total. 90% of 2000 tickets is 1800, but that's only 60% of 3000 - that's not where UMC wants to be when Andy gets back from his other stuff/vacation/etc.

How do you know he hasn't already sold out, say, 80% of the cabins? I'm pretty sure he has. Or more.

by **meshuggah** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:04 am

Will we get an announcement in 16 days other than "200 Days To Departure"?

Metalwrath · by **Metalwrath** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:00 pm

bodomdragon wrote:Personally, I think the explanation to the silence must be really simple, and it goes like this for Andy:

1. Start setting the cruise up for next year.
2. OK, let's start with some killer announcements which are gonna make many people's jaws drop.
3. Get massive bookings because of the first announcements and because of blind bookers and repeaters.
4. OMG! We have only just begun this thing and I already sold like 70-75% of tickets! Time to take a break. (At this point, I am assuming Andy's life goes further than organising the cruise, like having other jobs, duties or so).
5. Spend X months doing something else with your life. Totally forget about the cruise because, come on, it's getting sold out by itself! (Needless to say, this is where we are right now)
6. After X months: time to start working on the cruise again. OMG, while I was out we reached 90% cabins sold! OK let's get the rest of the bands and close this thing.
7. Profit.

The way I see it, that's what happened last year and the pattern is being repeated now. I might be plain wrong of course, but I can't find a better explanation.

Takes a few seconds to post a band announcment.If they can post constant crap on facebook they have time to post one of the bands booked.
I seriously doubt they only have this many bands booked so far.Some of the bands on next years cruise would more than likely have been booked before the start of the last cruise

by **acidbasement** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:08 pm

bodomdragon wrote:
acidbasement wrote:
bodomdragon wrote:blah blah

blah blah.

How do you know he hasn't already sold out, say, 80% of the cabins? I'm pretty sure he has. Or more.

I don't know. Don't we have a resident statistician? I'm only guessing based on last year, when the 2000 tickets were sold out in January. I have a hard time predicting that nearly 3000 tickets have been sold at this point, when we only have 16 bands. If you have data showing otherwise, carry on by all means.

by **cowboy71** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:14 pm

Currently there are 942 out of 1691 cabins in sold out categories.

So that means there are, at most, 45% of cabins remaining.

Of course, there will be PLENTY of cabins already sold in those categories too but one can only guess how many.

But at a guess, I would think it would be fair to say that its probably around 75% sold at the moment.

by **ANTIKRISS** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:21 pm

meshuggah wrote:Will we get an announcement in 16 days other than "200 Days To Departure"?

We will also get "Therion VS Cannibal Corpse tournament final" post.

by **klons** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:44 pm

ANTIKRISS wrote:
meshuggah wrote:Will we get an announcement in 16 days other than "200 Days To Departure"?

We will also get "Therion VS Cannibal Corpse tournament final" post.

Blind Guardian vs Equilibrium. We've already been through this!

by **AlixD** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:31 am

Wish list:
Rotting Christ, Samael, Borknagar, Arcturus, Primordial. Throes of Dawn.

by **Andy** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:01 pm

Welcome to 70000TONS.tv our brand new YouTube channel!

But that's not all...

Please also welcome Michael Schenker's Temple Of Rock featuring Michael Schenker on guitars, Herman Rarebell on drums, Francis Buchholz on the bass guitar, Doogie White on vocals and Wayne Findlay on Guitars and Keyboards on board 70000TONS OF METAL 2015, The Original! The World's Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise

by **DragonLordJones** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:09 pm

fucking cool ... love Michael Schenker ....... awesome add skipper

and thanks for an update

by **cowboy71** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:11 pm

Damn!!!

I didn't want any announcements

by **Dimma** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:25 pm

Schenker. Good get!

by **Cardest** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:04 am

Hell yeah!

Schenker's riffs destroys bras!

by **xman1102** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:23 am

Loved MSG back in the 80's

by **DrinkMoxie** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:48 am

So... If Andy might be recruiting at Hellfest, then let me suggest Mercyless & Powerwolf

by **Krys** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:44 am

Everyone I know is at Hellfest except me!!!!

I'm hoping they recruit Powerwolf and Sabaton at least. Happy with the last announcement, not what I would have guessed, but it's a fine addition.

by **EpidemicReign** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:53 am

Krys wrote:Everyone I know is at Hellfest except me!!!!

I'm hoping they recruit Powerwolf and Sabaton at least. Happy with the last announcement, not what I would have guessed, but it's a fine addition.

Powerwolf and Sabaton would be great. And I think most everyone can breathe a little easier now that SOMETHING has been announced

by **Andy** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:10 pm

Please watch and share the 2nd episode of 70000TONS.tv and welcome KATAKLYSM on broad 70000TONS OF METAL 2015, The Original, The World's Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise! Who will be next?

by **CaptOblivious** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:39 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Website · by **Azazel101** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:45 pm

I fukking really enjoyed both their sets last time!!!

Welcome back my feinds

by **cowboy71** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:46 pm

Nearing 1/3 of the bands announced, still no bucketlist bands for me so if we cannot go, I'm not too disappointed thusfar

by **Max_Rockwell** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:59 pm

Two great additions. I am looking forward to checking out Michael's stuff before heading on the cruise, and kataklysm always brings it, plus they're a good group of dudes from what I've seen.

I didn't check them out last time they were on the boat, so this time I shall!!

by **ANTIKRISS** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:00 pm

"A very special set"

Let's hope its a EX DEO set!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **ShoreSlayer** » Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:00 pm

SCHENKER!!!!

Seeing as I just bought, viewed and LOVED this DVD...

AND

seeing as ULI just had to drop from the Guitar Godz tour I was SO looking forward to later this year...

THIS is a GREAT freakin' announcement to turn my bitterness into joy

And while not right in my metal wheelhouse, Kataklysm is some damn good Canadian heaviness too so nice work Skipper! Thanks for giving us something to get excited about. Gonna check out the 70K TV stuff when I get home from work

by **SaraMarie** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:00 am

Super cool, I've never Kataklysm them and won't be seeing them this summer, so it'll be something new.

by **Sgt. B** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:16 am

I like the Michael Schenker & Kataklysm announcements. I also liked how Kataklysm was added via the recorded announcement. I hope Andy filmed a few more announcements while he was at Hellfest. Any of the following would be make me happy.

Behemoth
Dark Angel
Electric Wizard
Emperor
Enslaved
Godflesh
Hail of Bullets
In Solitude
Kadavar
Opeth
Powerwolf
Scorpion Child
Shining (Swe)
Skyclad
Solstafir
The Ruins Of Beverast
Tsjuder
Ulcerate
Vreid

by **Stained Class** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:25 am

Nice! Hopefully while he was there he grabbed IHSAHN!!

by **acidbasement** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:32 pm

Thanks for the update, Andy! Neither band is on my list, and that's just fine. I'm glad to see you're getting stuff done this summer!

by **Pellaz** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:14 pm

Stained Class wrote:Nice! Hopefully while he was there he grabbed IHSAHN!!

Wow, QFT. And maybe Ihsahn could perform for us some of the songs his "boy band" did, back when he was 18-19.

by **Stained Class** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:19 pm

Pellaz wrote:
Stained Class wrote:Nice! Hopefully while he was there he grabbed IHSAHN!!

Wow, QFT. And maybe Ihsahn could perform for us some of the songs his "boy band" did, back when he was 18-19.

That happened??? Looking it up now.

Oh, that's what he jokingly calls Emperor. Ok.

by **Pellaz** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:32 pm

Stained Class wrote: That happened??? Looking it up now.

Oh, that's what he jokingly calls Emperor. Ok.

Yeah, that's how he referred to Emperor when he played at ProgPower USA...and then he did two Emperor songs.
One of them appears, unmentioned, on the PPUSA live DVD for that year...so instead of the usual two songs per band, we got three.

by **Stained Class** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:40 pm

Pellaz wrote:
Stained Class wrote: That happened??? Looking it up now.

Oh, that's what he jokingly calls Emperor. Ok.

Yeah, that's how he referred to Emperor when he played at ProgPower USA...and then he did two Emperor songs.
One of them appears, unmentioned, on the PPUSA live DVD for that year...so instead of the usual two songs per band, we got three.

So jealous. After Leprous was announced in the video I was reeeeeally hoping for Ihsahn too. Hopefully UMC can pull it off.

by **Warphine** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:12 pm

Hey look, some announcements! Good ones too! :)

I've seen Kataklysm a million times, but I love them. I'll probably end up having to sacrifice at least one of their sets due to the inevitable conflicts that I'll have. I haven't listened to UFO yet but I know how influential they were so I'll have to check out Schenker's stuff before the cruise.

Majorly exciting to hear that the 70000 Tons crew was in attendance at Hellfest so hopefully we get some more great bands pulled from that lineup that we don't normally get over here in the states.

by **Razor Ramon** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:46 pm

Don't care about MSG, and Kataklysm is a big "Meh", seen them plenty of times...

Need Draconian.

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