Memnoch wrote:I think the security was right in trying to stop the crowd surfing, even if there were a few incidents where things could've been handled better. In my opinion, crowd surfing is ok on an open air festival with a big crowd. You should never do it in a small club, which even the pool stage is.
Feanorgandalf wrote:Where else will you see a chair mosh pit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InEWzHo0Mpk
It was on Barge to Hell but still part of UMC and a lot of veterans of that one on these forums.
Feanorgandalf wrote:Where else will you see a chair mosh pit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InEWzHo0Mpk
It was on Barge to Hell but still part of UMC and a lot of veterans of that one on these forums.
ShoreSlayer wrote:http://www.70000tons.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=297&p=6295#p6295
mooyagi wrote:Nothing like enjoying a show and getting a random foot to the back of the head. Fuck crowd surfing.
Memnoch wrote:Yes, I too saw a couple of instances where they were being too rough, but I also saw people crowd surfing in the Spectrum, which is not only retarded but also dangerous. And when you have a crowd of, say, fifty people, crowd surfing is stupid.
I see only two ways this could be handled:
a) ban crowd surfing completely
or
b) move the security barrier five to ten meters further from the stage than on previous cruises
"a" will anger some people, "b" will anger everyone.
The thing that people don't seem to understand is that there's not enough space between the barrier and the stage on the boat, and letting people crowd surf is a hazard to the surfers and to the security guys who have no space to move when trying to catch the surfers. Guess that's an American thing though, since I never see people crowd surfing on club gigs in Europe. On open air festivals, yes, but like I wrote earlier, that's a completely different situation.
mooyagi wrote:Nothing like enjoying a show and getting a random foot to the back of the head. Fuck crowd surfing.
alex_canada wrote:The moshing on 70k is gentle, I haven't had any issues with it. You can usually get a vibe when crowdsurfers will be coming anyway, except that time when Hector did it during the odyssey
mooyagi wrote:Fuck crowd surfing.
Lala wrote:and fuck moshpits too. i missed i.e. nearly the complete Gloryhammer Spectrum Gig cos every second Second someone knocked in my Back. why can't these People mosh where no one else is and they do not disturb that People who want to see a concert. go moshing at the Basketball court.....
mooyagi wrote:Nothing like enjoying a show and getting a random foot to the back of the head. Fuck crowd surfing.
Steve110 wrote:mooyagi wrote:Nothing like enjoying a show and getting a random foot to the back of the head. Fuck crowd surfing.
I must be the only one who doesn't mind this. I love the chaos. Also I don't how about other years since I went in 2012, but the floors tended to be reeeeal slippery especially on the pool deck which wasn't great for moshing. I'm not sure what they could do about that though.
DJ Old Man Stares wrote:Fuck crowd surfing? Fuck moshing? Since when was metal meant to be clean and orderly? It's a chaotic atmosphere in general so chaotic things will happen. To answer the original question, I personally never found any of the pits or walls of death particularly violent. For the most part, it's a love fest. Its nothing like a Slayer pit where people are actually swinging punches. You don't like moshing? Cool, there's plenty of room to just stand in the back.
218 wrote:I love how you can tell where people are from, just by their take:
Americans: "MOST BRUTAL THING IS TO MOSH. CANNOT STOP, IF YOU DO YOUR A PUSSY! FUCK WATCHING ANYTHING, I CAN WATCH LIVE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE"
Everyone else: "I don't get it, some people are just stupid"
218 wrote:I love how you can tell where people are from, just by their take:
Americans: "MOST BRUTAL THING IS TO MOSH. CANNOT STOP, IF YOU DO YOUR A PUSSY! FUCK WATCHING ANYTHING, I CAN WATCH LIVE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE"
Everyone else: "I don't get it, some people are just stupid"
DJ Old Man Stares wrote:Fuck crowd surfing? Fuck moshing? Since when was metal meant to be clean and orderly? It's a chaotic atmosphere in general so chaotic things will happen. To answer the original question, I personally never found any of the pits or walls of death particularly violent. For the most part, it's a love fest. Its nothing like a Slayer pit where people are actually swinging punches. You don't like moshing? Cool, there's plenty of room to just stand in the back.
D.T. Metal wrote:IF moshing is done right there should be no issue. Start the pit about 5+ rows back (depending on the size of the venue and how many people are there) and leave the folks who are close to the barrier alone. BUT, the moshing mentality of some are "let's try to hit everyone who is in attendance" and therefore I get the points brought up here. A lost of American's also employ this karate chopping bullshit and one has to be afraid to be hit in the face with their swinging arms.
SaraMarie wrote:Just guys kind of bouncing into each other and running in cirlces. No shoving or windmill guys.
Warphine wrote:As long as you don't have to deal with any really drunk sweaty dudes in their tighty-whities, the moshing is fairly standard.
What a story that was! LOL
Stained Class wrote:Warphine wrote:As long as you don't have to deal with any really drunk sweaty dudes in their tighty-whities, the moshing is fairly standard.
What a story that was! LOL
That was on barge right? That was pretty funny.
Warphine wrote:Stained Class wrote:Warphine wrote:As long as you don't have to deal with any really drunk sweaty dudes in their tighty-whities, the moshing is fairly standard.
What a story that was! LOL
That was on barge right? That was pretty funny.
Yup! The dude had to be on drugs or something mind altering. Or he's just a dick. That's a possibly too.
klons wrote:
Was it Calvin? Cause that sounds completely like something he would do. I've been curious if last year was his first time on broad or not, don't remember seeing him in 2013.
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