70k 2017 Lineup Predictions/Rumours - Page 6

by **metalmaciejmetal** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:03 am

So I just say that Devil Driver and Death Angel are on tour right after the cruise. They are also joined by Winds of plague, the agonist and Azrael. Hopefully those bands don't get booked.

(to be fair I don't know who Azrael is)

by **Phoenix** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:06 am

metalmaciejmetal wrote:So I just say that Devil Driver and Death Angel are on tour right after the cruise. They are also joined by Winds of plague, the agonist and Azrael. Hopefully those bands don't get booked.

(to be fair I don't know who Azrael is)

Seconded. Not a fan of The Agonist, and I've TRIED.

by **General Zod** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:03 am

Phoenix wrote:Seconded. Not a fan of The Agonist, and I've TRIED.

Yep. They kind of suck. Although they don't suck any more than DevilDriver.

by **CFH** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:46 am

Downvod wrote:The Cavalera brothers just announced they are coming back to North America in February, I believe still doing the Roots album in its entirety. Sounds to me like they are likely to be on the boat...

Wouldn't mind having them on boat, but could do with a different set. That album has about 3 good songs and I get that at the time it was something new and unique, but for me Roots is the last Sepultura album I'd like to hear live in it's entirety.

Now what's also interesting is that Max said in an interview that Immolation is likely to be opening for them in February. Give me Immolation

by **metalmaciejmetal** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:52 am

General Zod wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Seconded. Not a fan of The Agonist, and I've TRIED.

Yep. They kind of suck. Although they don't suck any more than DevilDriver.

Agreed. I saw those guys open for Gwar years ago, absolute shit. Every song had the same basic riff, no guitar solos. I was baffled as to why Devil Driver or Stuck Mojo was on the bill until I realized they are both on Napalm.

by **Danny24601** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:01 pm

General Zod wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Seconded. Not a fan of The Agonist, and I've TRIED.

Yep. They kind of suck. Although they don't suck any more than DevilDriver.

I would actually be pretty happy to see The Agonist get booked, I quite like their jams and they were really great live a few months ago with Epica, Fleshgod, and Arkona (that was actually a really great lineup all around). They are fairly metalcore though, I'm not surprised they aren't too popular around these parts.

That said, I'm not sure they would get booked given the fact that Arch Enemy is playing, cause I'm under the impression they still have fairly major unhappy feelings between them. While I doubt the skipper cares too much about people's feelings I'm not sure he would want to piss off a band as big as Arch Enemy, especially since the confined nature of 70K means that they'd all be stuck on a boat together for 4 days. I'd still love to see them though, so I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

by **acidbasement** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:24 am

Music industry gossip is dumb.

If there's bad blood between AE and The Agonist, the only people who have to deal with it are those two bands. AE isn't going to ask for a "No Agonist" clause in their performance contract, because they are professionals and they know that's a stupid thing to ask for. No festival of 70K's size is going to care about a public feud between a couple of bands, because there will always be people in the music industry who don't get along, and most of the time it's just not made public so nobody gossips about it. I mean, do you think Andy gets along with every booking agent he has to deal with?

by **macamatic** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:54 pm

Danny24601 wrote:
General Zod wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Seconded. Not a fan of The Agonist, and I've TRIED.

Yep. They kind of suck. Although they don't suck any more than DevilDriver.

I would actually be pretty happy to see The Agonist get booked, I quite like their jams and they were really great live a few months ago with Epica, Fleshgod, and Arkona (that was actually a really great lineup all around). They are fairly metalcore though, I'm not surprised they aren't too popular around these parts.

That tour ended two weeks ago. Andy, do you see what you're doing to us? This man has lost his perception of time!

I don't think there's any bad blood between the bands. It's strictly Alissa, and with logistics as complicated as 70k's, nobody cares if one person's feelings are hurt. (Side note: that all happened well over two years ago - I have to think she's moved on by now).

by **captaingabbeh** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:06 pm

*checks wishlist*

Why yes, I would be okay with having The Agonist on board.

Tbh I agree with the collective that Alissa's feelings on them are unlikely to affect whether or not they get booked.

by **Danny24601** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:07 pm

That makes a lot of sense, and I hope y'all are right cause they'd be a definite one set for me.

But I'd take pretty much any announcements right now.

by **Sgt. B** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:48 pm

Svart Crown a possibility for the cruise? I would be very happy if they were on.

Marduk + Incantation + Svart Crown

02/07/17 Tampa, FL The Orpheum
02/08/17 Atlanta, GA Heaven @ Masquerade
02/09/17 Dayton, OH Oddbody's
02/10/17 Chicago, IL Reggie's
02/11/17 Kansas City, MO Riot Room
02/12/17 Fort Worth, TX Rail Club
02/13/17 Austin, TX Grizzly Hall
02/14/17 Albuquerque, NM Launchpad
02/15/17 Phoenix, AZ Joe's Grotto
02/16/17 Las Vegas, NV tbc
02/17/17 Los Angeles, CA Regent Theater
02/18/17 Oakland, CA Metro Opera House
02/19/17 Portland, OR Bossanova Ballroom
02/20/17 Seattle, WA Studio Seven

Website · by **Azazel101** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:39 pm

Sgt. B wrote:Svart Crown a possibility for the cruise? I would be very happy if they were on.

Marduk + Incantation + Svart Crown

02/07/17 Tampa, FL The Orpheum
02/08/17 Atlanta, GA Heaven @ Masquerade
02/09/17 Dayton, OH Oddbody's
02/10/17 Chicago, IL Reggie's
02/11/17 Kansas City, MO Riot Room
02/12/17 Fort Worth, TX Rail Club
02/13/17 Austin, TX Grizzly Hall
02/14/17 Albuquerque, NM Launchpad
02/15/17 Phoenix, AZ Joe's Grotto
02/16/17 Las Vegas, NV tbc
02/17/17 Los Angeles, CA Regent Theater
02/18/17 Oakland, CA Metro Opera House
02/19/17 Portland, OR Bossanova Ballroom
02/20/17 Seattle, WA Studio Seven

HellYeah

by **Warphine** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:57 pm

Sgt. B wrote:Svart Crown a possibility for the cruise? I would be very happy if they were on.

Marduk + Incantation + Svart Crown

02/07/17 Tampa, FL The Orpheum
02/08/17 Atlanta, GA Heaven @ Masquerade
02/09/17 Dayton, OH Oddbody's
02/10/17 Chicago, IL Reggie's
02/11/17 Kansas City, MO Riot Room
02/12/17 Fort Worth, TX Rail Club
02/13/17 Austin, TX Grizzly Hall
02/14/17 Albuquerque, NM Launchpad
02/15/17 Phoenix, AZ Joe's Grotto
02/16/17 Las Vegas, NV tbc
02/17/17 Los Angeles, CA Regent Theater
02/18/17 Oakland, CA Metro Opera House
02/19/17 Portland, OR Bossanova Ballroom
02/20/17 Seattle, WA Studio Seven

Beat me to it!

I'm trying really hard to not get my hopes up. Seems likely they will be on, but you never know around here...

I would go to this show in Tampa if need be, but I'd really rather be able to skip this tour because of seeing them on the boat. Driving to Tampa doesn't sound as enjoyable doing it the day after I get back from the cruise.

by **Sgt. B** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:59 am

Warphine wrote:
Sgt. B wrote:Svart Crown a possibility for the cruise? I would be very happy if they were on.

Marduk + Incantation + Svart Crown

02/07/17 Tampa, FL The Orpheum
02/08/17 Atlanta, GA Heaven @ Masquerade
02/09/17 Dayton, OH Oddbody's
02/10/17 Chicago, IL Reggie's
02/11/17 Kansas City, MO Riot Room
02/12/17 Fort Worth, TX Rail Club
02/13/17 Austin, TX Grizzly Hall
02/14/17 Albuquerque, NM Launchpad
02/15/17 Phoenix, AZ Joe's Grotto
02/16/17 Las Vegas, NV tbc
02/17/17 Los Angeles, CA Regent Theater
02/18/17 Oakland, CA Metro Opera House
02/19/17 Portland, OR Bossanova Ballroom
02/20/17 Seattle, WA Studio Seven

Beat me to it!

I'm trying really hard to not get my hopes up. Seems likely they will be on, but you never know around here...

I would go to this show in Tampa if need be, but I'd really rather be able to skip this tour because of seeing them on the boat. Driving to Tampa doesn't sound as enjoyable doing it the day after I get back from the cruise.

This tour is not coming where I live. The cruise would be my chance to catch them. So I am hoping Svart Crown are on, but I am expecting them to not be.

by **Warphine** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:19 am

They said there are more tour dates to come, so maybe there is a chance they will still hit up your area!

Website · by **Azazel101** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:48 pm

Sepultura's Max and Igor will start the second leg of "return to roots" tour on Feb 9th with Immolation and Full Of Hell

by **Pellaz** » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:20 am

Speedy wrote:A 2015 repeat is trying to get back on.

I'm not expecting any of these at this late Cripper-band stage, but Behemoth, Melechesh, Korpiklaani, Ensiferum or Cannibal Corpse would make me really happy.

by **acidbasement** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:46 am

Last year, Arkona made a public announcement that they were taking some time off to relax with their families after their tour ended. A few days later, they were announced for 70K. For a lot of bands it's a vacation I think.

by **cowboy71** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:57 pm

DIABULUS IN MUSICA and AMBERIAN DAWN are touring together, starting 10th of Feb in the UK.

Would love both of those bands to be on 70k :)

by **Memnoch** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 am

cowboy71 wrote:DIABULUS IN MUSICA and AMBERIAN DAWN are touring together, starting 10th of Feb in the UK.

Would love both of those bands to be on 70k :)

Crimson Sun is on that tour too, and I'd be thrilled if they too were on 70k. Ok, I'm seeing them in February anyhow when they're opening for Epica in Helsinki.

Speaking of girlie bands, Secret Rule is trying to get on 70k. I'd love to see them!

by **cowboy71** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:23 am

Lets not be picky - lets just have all four thanks Andy

by **Memnoch** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:12 am

cowboy71 wrote:Lets not be picky - lets just have all four thanks Andy

Indeed.

"Merry Christmas, Ville and Dallas! Here's four more girlie bands for you!" would be quite amazing Sunday announcement this week.

by **drrock** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:43 am

Prediction/Wishlist/not colliding with any announced dates:

CANDLEMASS
RAGE
ORANGE GOBLIN
THE VINTAGE CARAVAN
METAL CHURCH
AVATARIUM
THE DOOMSDAY KINGDOM (probably not enough material to perform...)
KING WITCH (probably not enough material to perform...)

Let's see who makes it on broad!

by **dws515** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:17 am

Havok just announced a NA tour with Exmortus and Extinction A.D. that starts on 1/8. That would fit right for the tour kicking off on 70000 Tons!

by **sara** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:37 am

dws515 wrote:Havok just announced a NA tour with Exmortus and Extinction A.D. that starts on 1/8. That would fit right for the tour kicking off on 70000 Tons!

Hey, the dates were announced, and they play Chicago on 2/8. So no ship Havok. They do play ONCE (name of the club, not number of times playing!) after the cruise, so I'll see ya there, huh?

by **dws515** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:05 am

Duh, I meant 2/8 was the first show, yeah, in Chicago. I guess they could do the cruise and then fly up to Chicago for the start of the tour? And yeah, I'll see you at ONCE!

by **General Zod** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:29 am

drrock wrote:RAGE

Does anyone actually care about this band? They've played ProgPower a few times and each time their show is one of the most poorly attended of the festival. Given the current lack of power metal, I would be supremely disappointed if this is one of the bands Andy picks to close that gap.

by **Bobzilla28** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:30 pm

I would be shocked if STRIKER isn't on the boat.
They are in Winter Haven FL on 2/1 and the a gap til 2/7 in Georgia.
Not to mention they are Canadian!

by **Warphine** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:47 pm

Good find! I'd be down to catch a set or two of Striker.

by **Downvod** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:27 pm

General Zod wrote:
drrock wrote:RAGE

Does anyone actually care about this band? They've played ProgPower a few times and each time their show is one of the most poorly attended of the festival. Given the current lack of power metal, I would be supremely disappointed if this is one of the bands Andy picks to close that gap.

I would have much rather seen them before V. Smolski left the band, but yeah I would still be interested. They have played the cruise 3 times now (once as Refuge), so I would imagine someone does care. They've never been very well known in the US, so I am not surprised in the lack of interest at ProgPower. Unity, Soundchaser, Speak of the Dead, Missing Link, Trapped!... all fantastic albums.

by **bratoutofhell** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:31 pm

I'd be really pleased to see:

Mortem (Peru)
Skull Fist
Vektor
Helstar
Eternal Champion
And...Syphilitic Vaginas

by **Downvod** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:41 pm

sara wrote:
dws515 wrote:Havok just announced a NA tour with Exmortus and Extinction A.D. that starts on 1/8. That would fit right for the tour kicking off on 70000 Tons!

Hey, the dates were announced, and they play Chicago on 2/8. So no ship Havok. They do play ONCE (name of the club, not number of times playing!) after the cruise, so I'll see ya there, huh?

I don't think it necessarily rules them out. Devildriver and Death Angel are starting a tour in Los Angeles on 2/9, so I don't see why they couldn't make Chicago by 2/8. I actually think this makes it likely that at least one of those bands WILL be on.

by **Phoenix** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:14 pm

Reminder that some bands deliberately plan holes in their tours around 70k, for a lot of reasons. Because they are in fact on the boat, in hopes that they'll be booked, because they want to go as passengers, or because they know all their hardcore fans are going to be away for a week at a festival

Keep in mind that we also get off EARLY on the 6th. Before noon early, I think I was off the boat and through customs by 7 or 8 in 2015.

by **meshuggah** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:18 pm

dws515 wrote:Havok just announced a NA tour with Exmortus and Extinction A.D. that starts on 1/8. That would fit right for the tour kicking off on 70000 Tons!

Got all excited, looked at the dates...GREAT! St. Vitus on February 14...which is...Valentine's Day

Don't think wife would appreciate this too much.

by **bodomdragon** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:47 am

General Zod wrote:
drrock wrote:RAGE

Does anyone actually care about this band? They've played ProgPower a few times and each time their show is one of the most poorly attended of the festival. Given the current lack of power metal, I would be supremely disappointed if this is one of the bands Andy picks to close that gap.

I do. I've watched them 4 or 5 times live and they've always delivered. It would be interesting to watch them with the new lineup. I'd be happy if they were announced. Plus, Peavy is a GREAT guy and it's always cool to have him onbroad.

by **General Zod** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:53 am

Downvod wrote:They've never been very well known in the US, so I am not surprised in the lack of interest at ProgPower.

That's fairly true of the vast majority of bands that play PP. Most of the bands that play PP are playing the U.S. for the first time.

by **Blackfhyre** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:20 am

bodomdragon wrote:
General Zod wrote:
drrock wrote:RAGE

Does anyone actually care about this band? They've played ProgPower a few times and each time their show is one of the most poorly attended of the festival. Given the current lack of power metal, I would be supremely disappointed if this is one of the bands Andy picks to close that gap.

I do. I've watched them 4 or 5 times live and they've always delivered. It would be interesting to watch them with the new lineup. I'd be happy if they were announced. Plus, Peavy is a GREAT guy and it's always cool to have him onbroad.

Fuck yes

by **CFH** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:25 pm

The Haunted is touring with Arch Enemy before and after the Cruise with "more dates to be announced soon". Keeping my fingers crossed.. Have never seen them with Marco on vocals and even though I prefer Peter, this would be great time to see how the current line up works live.

by **acidbasement** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:47 pm

CFH wrote:The Haunted is touring with Arch Enemy before and after the Cruise with "more dates to be announced soon". Keeping my fingers crossed.. Have never seen them with Marco on vocals and even though I prefer Peter, this would be great time to see how the current line up works live.

Well that would be cool. Listening to them for the first time right now, and I like.

by **Pellaz** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:20 pm

bratoutofhell wrote:I'd be really pleased to see:
Vektor
Helstar
Eternal Champion

Helstar played the boat last Feb. as a last-minute add, so they can't perform in 2017.

Vektor would be cool, and I confess I have a proprietary interest in any band called Eternal Champion. :)

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