[TPH]

I wouldn't say that they are "objectively" terrible, but their music bores me to death. To me, it sounds like really gifted musicians doing a clinic, not a band playing actual music. I can understand why some people enjoy them, but for me, this is the most uninteresting kind of bands. Technical skills should be a tool to produce great music, not an end in itself.

And that SYL cover. Holy fucking shit.

[cowboy71]

And their output post 2000 was absolutely terrible according to a lot of reviews:

http://www.metal-rules.com/review/viewr ... ear=&pos=5

http://www.metal-rules.com/review/viewr ... ear=&pos=4

http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/4406

Although their most recent output is apparently a bit better than the above :)

[Speedy]

I wouldn't say that they are "objectively" terrible, but their music bores me to death. To me, it sounds like really gifted musicians doing a clinic, not a band playing actual music. I can understand why some people enjoy them, but for me, this is the most uninteresting kind of bands. Technical skills should be a tool to produce great music, not an end in itself.

Agreed! I watched a bit of Steve Vai (very different musically, of course) at Sweden Rock last year, but had to leave as ist got boring fast. While he's an extremely skilled guitarist, good music consits of much more than just guitar-wanking.

[bernabeit]

Sweet Carcass!!! That's a 2 setter

I reckon the next one is into the depths of HELL!!

[sara]

Cryptopsy
God, no

I'm still crying (sulfuric acid tears, of course) every time I'm reminded of that band, and their TERRIBLE cover of Strapping Young Lad's "Oh My Fucking God". This is honestly the worst cover I have ever heard, even worse than Six Feet Under covering Iron Maiden or AC/DC.

So... besides the failed cover, are they really that bad?

Yikes, I didn't know about the SYL cover. Oh My Fucking God isn't something that I think a lot of other bands could pull off, not because it's so technically challenging or anything, but it has a sort of feeling to it, one that makes more sense for Townsend. He just had that kind of neurotic, bipolar mad scientist vibe with SYL, and that's what makes the song what it is.

Spotify has been throwing Cryptopsy at me lately, and I've liked what I've heard. Maybe it's the old stuff?

[metalmaciejmetal]

And their output post 2000 was absolutely terrible according to a lot of reviews:

I can speak about Once Was Not. I think its a decent album. Its weird, really, but it isnt a bad album. It takes a couple of times to get used to it. Some cool experimentation. After that, Lord Worm left. Going forward they sort of strayed away from the death metal roots, more of a Deathcore thing

[Godflesh]

From the Very Depths of Hell... Please not Venom, they were a big disappointment for me in 2015.

Oceano is from the US, and their first album is called "Depths".
It would certainly fill the br00talz void, but we haven't had a deathcore band yet.
I actually really like them.

[Metaladdict187]

Hmmmmm.... sirenia maybe??? The have a lot of aquatic themes. I know most of you would hate that ahnnoincement, but my wife and i would be happy.

[Andy]

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Please welcome the legends from Montreal, CRYPTOPSY, onrboad 70000TONS OF METAL 2017!

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[captaingabbeh]

So.. two zero-setters for me!

[metalmaciejmetal]

Tabarnak! Cryptopsy to rescue in such short notice

[Jotunheimr]

Chill dude, and never take the wookie too seriously. Never seen a troll before?

Surely he knows what they are! Turilli has had to written songs about them, he just might be preparing his sword and bow n arrow!

[Gratch]

That subject "...and you will beg to be onboard".

Anaal Nathrakh has a song on their latest titled "And you will beg for our secrets". Hmmm...

[cowboy71]

That subject "...and you will beg to be onboard".

Anaal Nathrakh has a song on their latest titled "And you will beg for our secrets". Hmmm...

Nah you are reading way too much into it mate.

Cryptopsy has an album called "...And Then You'll Beg".

[mooyagi]

That subject "...and you will beg to be onboard".

Anaal Nathrakh has a song on their latest titled "And you will beg for our secrets". Hmmm...

That album is excellent. They'd be a two setter for me. They have played the cruise before. Was very odd to see on the pool deck at 10am.

[Godflesh]

Cryptopsy is a legit replacement for Nile, thank you Skipper.
After PSYCROPTIC and CRYPTOSY, I predict the last band will be CYSTIC PORC, from France

[Phoenix]

And now for the Gojira replacement... The hype intensifies.

[Godflesh]

BTW, someone should warn those Québécois that the temperature in Haiti is currently "Ciboire ch'tout trempe!"

[Godflesh]

And now for the Gojira replacement... The hype intensifies.

I'm afraid it was Carcass... After all, they were at the same level on the wish list.
I'm guessing Carcass was the "bonus" band, and that the next band was the planned last headliner.
Notice the repeat of an absence of hint.

[bodomdragon]

So the "depths" clue was simply pointless? That's lame.

[Godflesh]

So the "depths" clue was simply pointless? That's lame.

Ensign Bodomdragon, remember your training, and resume your position.
"The depths" is analogous to "the pit", which sometimes refers to extreme metal, like black and death.
For example, in the USA, a popular example is "Into the pit", an extreme metal segment of the SiriusXM "Liquid Metal" channel, which I often hear in my car at 3am when I get back from... work ;-)

[bodomdragon]

So the "depths" clue was simply pointless? That's lame.

Ensign Bodomdragon, remember your training, and resume your position.
"The depths" is analogic to "the pit", which sometimes refers to extreme metal, like black and death.
For example, in the USA, a popular example is "Into the pit", an extreme metal segment of the SiriusXM "Liquid Metal" channel, which I often hear in my car at 3am when I get back from... work.

Damn, that was so obvious! But hey, English is not my native language

[Zed3]

So the "depths" clue was simply pointless? That's lame.

Ensign Bodomdragon, remember your training, and resume your position.
"The depths" is analogic to "the pit", which sometimes refers to extreme metal, like black and death.
For example, in the USA, a popular example is "Into the pit", an extreme metal segment of the SiriusXM "Liquid Metal" channel, which I often hear in my car at 3am when I get back from... work.

Damn, that was so obvious! But hey, English is not my native language

My take is that "the depths" was referring to the "crypt" part of Cryptopsy ;-)

[Godflesh]

So the "depths" clue was simply pointless? That's lame.

Ensign Bodomdragon, remember your training, and resume your position.
"The depths" is analogous to "the pit", which sometimes refers to extreme metal, like black and death.
For example, in the USA, a popular example is "Into the pit", an extreme metal segment of the SiriusXM "Liquid Metal" channel, which I often hear in my car at 3am when I get back from... work.

Damn, that was so obvious! But hey, English is not my native language

Me neither :-) I was just spitballing, I'm never sober^H^H^H^H^H serious on this forum, because to me it represents what 70k is, FUN!!

EDIT: Analogic->analogous, and ^H means "Control H", which was a way to delete the character on the left on 1970s terminals. Sadly, this forum doesn't support strikeout characters. Now this was me being serious :-)

[bodomdragon]

My take is that "the depths" was referring to the "crypt" part of Cryptopsy ;-)

Fair enough... but I think Underworld was a better fit for the clue, so the next band better be Symphony X!

[AceHugger]

Ensign Bodomdragon, remember your training, and resume your position.
"The depths" is analogic to "the pit", which sometimes refers to extreme metal, like black and death.
For example, in the USA, a popular example is "Into the pit", an extreme metal segment of the SiriusXM "Liquid Metal" channel, which I often hear in my car at 3am when I get back from... work.

Damn, that was so obvious! But hey, English is not my native language

My take is that "the depths" was referring to the "crypt" part of Cryptopsy ;-)

I was about to post this very thing....

[sara]

I'm happy for the Cyrptopsy add. I gave a listen again, maybe there are some bad reviews, but I'm down. That SYL cover really is cringey though, I'll agree there. The vocals are completely wrong for that song. The vocals kind of make that song, so...

I'm hoping for Hypocrisy next, but I don't have my heart set.

[General Zod]

And now for the Gojira replacement... The hype intensifies.

I'm afraid it was Carcass... After all, they were at the same level on the wish list.
I'm guessing Carcass was the "bonus" band, and that the next band was the planned last headliner.
Notice the repeat of an absence of hint.

I'm not sure I follow. If Carcass is the replacement for Gojira because they "were at the same level", how does that differ in any way if he now needs to replace Carcass with a band who's also at the same level?

I would also submit Carcass doesn't really measure up to Gojira in status. Using my geography as a quick barometer, Gojira just came around as a headliner and sold out a club for 3,000. Carcass came around with significant support (Deafheaven and Inter Arma) and didn't sell out a club that holds 1,000.

Seems to me Carcass' name was provided now to buy a bit more time to line up another headliner. But I guess we'll know soon enough.

[Gratch]

That subject "...and you will beg to be onboard".

Anaal Nathrakh has a song on their latest titled "And you will beg for our secrets". Hmmm...

Nah you are reading way too much into it mate.

Cryptopsy has an album called "...And Then You'll Beg".

Bummer. Cryptopsy's not my thing, but would have loved to see AN.

[Phoenix]

I'm not sure I follow. If Carcass is the replacement for Gojira because they "were at the same level", how does that differ in any way if he now needs to replace Carcass with a band who's also at the same level?

I would also submit Carcass doesn't really measure up to Gojira in status. Using my geography as a quick barometer, Gojira just came around as a headliner and sold out a club for 3,000. Carcass came around with significant support (Deafheaven and Inter Arma) and didn't sell out a club that holds 1,000.

Seems to me Carcass' name was provided now to buy a bit more time to line up another headliner. But I guess we'll know soon enough.

This is what I was thinking. Something with the status - Meshuggah, AA, maybe even Cannibal Corpse (I don't know which names are big anymore, I just like what I like). Something where you go "yeah, they could headline easily."

[TPH]

I've already seen Meshuggah last week, and I'll see then once again with pleasure. But I'm quite certain that they had conflicting dates with the cruise.

[Phoenix]

I've already seen Meshuggah last week, and I'll see then once again with pleasure. But I'm quite certain that they had conflicting dates with the cruise.

Fair enough - I was more just dropping names as examples than suggestions.

[Sgt. B]

I've already seen Meshuggah last week, and I'll see then once again with pleasure. But I'm quite certain that they had conflicting dates with the cruise.

A quick look shows that Meshuggah does not list any shows on their website until February 22.

[Sgt. B]

Old Cryptopsy - I like. New Cryptopsy - I don't care for.

I lost interest in them when they got the current vocalist & started to move toward a deathcore sound. I really haven't heard/cared about any material they have done since the awful "Unspoken King" album.

I understand it is late in the game, but this is a sub-par replacement for Nile in my view.

[Downvod]

Old Cryptopsy - I like. New Cryptopsy - I don't care for.

I lost interest in them when they got the current vocalist & started to move toward a deathcore sound. I really haven't heard/cared about any material they have done since the awful "Unspoken King" album.

I understand it is late in the game, but this is a sub-par replacement for Nile in my view.

Unspoken King was really a one-off experiment with deathcore for the most part. They went right back to Technical Death Metal on the 2012 self-titled album, and the 2015 EP. Might be worth checking both out if you like their old stuff.

[PacNW]

Since I've always thought of Gojira as "the slow, boring version of Meshuggah" I would be very happy with a Meshuggah announcement. (I haven't listened to all of Gojira's stuff and am open to the idea I could be wrong)

Symphony X is not remotely comparable to Nile or Gojira, but I really love them, so I would be happy if they were announced.

[Phoenix]

Yeah people have been bringing up Symphony X a lot. Eh, the only really big name band I enjoy is Amon Amarth, and after this long I'm fairly certain they're not happening. So I'll happily take another zero setter and stick from the still very large pool of bands I want to see.

I'll see what looks to be quite a lot of you mother fuckers at the Mors Principium Est sets - hell, I'll even get in a pit the second they play God Has Fallen

[Andy]

ALLEGAEON will join you and 2,999 other metalheads hailing from over 70 countries around the globe onbroad 70000TONS OF METAL, The Original, The World's Biggest Heavy Metal Cruise!

We're setting sail to beautiful Labadee in just under a week, so pack your bags Sailors!

That's 60 out of 60. Would it be Overkill to have more? Let us know!

[mooyagi]

We're definitely not getting Overkill because Andy is a huge troll

[captaingabbeh]

I know nothing about these guys, but I know a bunch of cruisers who will be stoked :)