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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by bodomdragon » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:16 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:BUT THAT SAUNA THO.


    While I do think Jarisun's studio project is ridiculously overpriced, I really don't get the hate they get for the sauna. I mean, a sauna in Finland is pretty much the standard with a bathroom and only adds like 5-10k euros to the total costs. That's like saying a toilet is unnecessary and not needed in a building.

    A sauna is certainly not as necessary as a toilet, but the hate doesn't come from the sauna, that's just a funny way to refer to their 750k€ studio. The hate comes from other reasons, such as being a HUGE drama queen, not delivering pretty much anything decent since 2004, and scamming people.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by General Zod » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:19 am

    deathmetalpat wrote:In 2012 Nightwish toured USA after the cruise but in September.They started with 2 shows in Atlanta at the Center Stage.That venue has a little over 1,000 capacity and I am sure quite a few fans went to both shows.


    It's also worth noting the typical correlation between venue size and the band fee doesn't always apply when it comes to ProgPower. The Wednesday/Thursday show at ProgPower is sold as a two-day pass and typically goes for around $175. Fan-band sponsorship is also part of the ProgPower financial model. So when they choose, ProgPower can afford to bring in a band who might typically might play bigger venues. The other aspect of this was it was part of a tour and the costs of travel and visas could be deferred over the duration of a tour. Not so for a one-off. Nightwish has little need to do one-offs anymore and their scheduling commitments don't typically allow for it anyway. Finally, I had the chance to do a fairly lengthy interview with John Finberg, Nightwish's booking agent for the states. Suffice it to say he only sees the band's fee as going up and up and up.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Pellaz » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:57 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    Pellaz wrote:BUT THAT SAUNA THO.


    While I do think Jarisun's studio project is ridiculously overpriced, I really don't get the hate they get for the sauna. I mean, a sauna in Finland is pretty much the standard with a bathroom and only adds like 5-10k euros to the total costs. That's like saying a toilet is unnecessary and not needed in a building.


    I know, I was half-kidding. Finns have a 'thing' regarding saunas...very HOT ones. :D
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Tono_Fyr » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:11 pm

    bodomdragon wrote:This will be a bummer for many... Wintersun are out. Touring Europe with Arch Enemy during the cruise.


    The only answer, then, is Æther Realm.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Jotunheimr » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:24 am

    bodomdragon wrote:...not delivering pretty much anything decent since 2004, and scamming people.


    Hey now, let's not use the 's' word unless he pulls a Nachtmystium and refuses to deliver a product people paid for.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Godflesh » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:02 pm

    The Dillinger Escape Plan can be ruled out... forever: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/the-dillinger-escape-plan-announces-final-show/
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Godflesh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:23 am

    Nergal told a fan on FB that Behemoth was not on broad next year, but maybe 2019.
    He could be trolling, but I think it's unlikely.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Pellaz » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:45 am

    Godflesh wrote:Nergal told a fan on FB that Behemoth was not on broad next year, but maybe 2019.
    He could be trolling, but I think it's unlikely.


    Well, damnit, if it's true. :evil:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by captaingabbeh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:09 am

    As long as there's hope for Batushka I can live with Behemoth being ruled out.

    Imperial Age is out as well as they are touring with Therion during the cruise. IDK if they were on anyone's wishlist though.

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by captaingabbeh » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:05 am

    Moonspell and Cradle of Filth are officially both ruled out - touring Europe during the cruise

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by acidbasement » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:25 am

    captaingabbeh wrote:Moonspell and Cradle of Filth are officially both ruled out - touring Europe during the cruise


    That can't be true. Razor Ramon said Moonspell were booked. :twisted:
    Seriously though, that sucks. They were so good in 2016.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by TPH » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:28 am

    Moonspell always deliver live, it's a shame they don't come to the 70000Tons.

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by captaingabbeh » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:23 pm

    acidbasement wrote:
    captaingabbeh wrote:Moonspell and Cradle of Filth are officially both ruled out - touring Europe during the cruise


    That can't be true. Razor Ramon said Moonspell were booked. :twisted:
    Seriously though, that sucks. They were so good in 2016.


    There's never any shortage of bad intel when it comes to 70k bookings :). But yeah, sucks that they're out.

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by captaingabbeh » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:03 pm

    Aaaand looks like Batushka can probably be ruled out. They've cancelled their appearance at Inferno, citing "unforseen personal events" and "new life". So probably babbies

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Razor Ramon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:58 pm

    acidbasement wrote:
    captaingabbeh wrote:Moonspell and Cradle of Filth are officially both ruled out - touring Europe during the cruise


    That can't be true. Razor Ramon said Moonspell were booked. :twisted:
    Seriously though, that sucks. They were so good in 2016.


    Fernando told me himself, not sure what happened...
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Pellaz » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:10 pm

    Razor Ramon wrote:
    acidbasement wrote:
    captaingabbeh wrote:Moonspell and Cradle of Filth are officially both ruled out - touring Europe during the cruise


    That can't be true. Razor Ramon said Moonspell were booked. :twisted:
    Seriously though, that sucks. They were so good in 2016.


    Fernando told me himself, not sure what happened...


    Huh. Could be the tour ended up being more of a priority...and I could certainly see that.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Evican » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:44 am

    Evican wrote:EPICA - Spoke to Mark last year and he said that cruising once every 5 years for them is enough, so it's likely that they won't be back for another few years.


    Epica are definitely out for 2018. Spoke to Isaac for quite some time before the show in Seattle and he said they are touring elsewhere at the time of the cruise.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Evican » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:49 am

    Also... Probably Decapitated. :cry:

    Stoked I got to see them before Spokane.. :?
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Bolt_Thrower » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:43 pm

    What bands can be ruled out? Apparently all of them except for the 21.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by DragonLordJones » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:53 pm

    Fates Warning is out touring Europe - which means more or less Armored Saint as Joey Vera plays for Fates Warning :cry:
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    by bodomdragon » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:47 am

    DragonLordJones wrote:Fates Warning is out touring Europe - which means more or less Armored Saint as Joey Vera plays for Fates Warning :cry:

    According to the dates published on their website, their last show is on January 27th. So I'd say this is pretty much the other way around, rather than being ruled out this schedule makes them a perfect fit for the boat.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by DragonLordJones » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:06 am

    bodomdragon wrote:According to the dates published on their website, their last show is on January 27th. So I'd say this is pretty much the other way around, rather than being ruled out this schedule makes them a perfect fit for the boat.


    I thought I saw a longer tour list that went into February - can't find it now ... sorry :oops:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

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    Machine Head has tour dates during the cruise.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by TPH » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:15 am

    They have a show on Monday in Orlando...might as well enjoy my trip to the US to the fullest!
    I'll definitely check if I can make it.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Speedy » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:55 am

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by bodomdragon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:28 am

    Speedy wrote:All bands playing Winter Days of Metal (31.01.-04.02.), so far:
    Wyrd, Arkona :cry: , Asphyx, Milking the Goatmachine, Grailknights :cry: , Hour of Penance, Fleshless, Srd, Carnage Calligraphy, Novacrow, Infected Chaos and Immorgon

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Evican » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:31 am

    Ne Obliviscaris are out.

    Apparently they were asked, but the timing doesn't work for them.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Phoenix » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:33 am

    Evican wrote:Ne Obliviscaris are out.

    Apparently they were asked, but the timing doesn't work for them.

    :cry:

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    by Evican » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:37 am

    Phoenix wrote: :cry:

    Not so bad through as they are touring North America and Canada before the cruise. :headbanger:
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Phoenix » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:18 am

    Evican wrote:
    Phoenix wrote: :cry:

    Not so bad through as they are touring North America and Canada before the cruise. :headbanger:

    I know, I already have my ticket and I'm excited. Still though. I know they've wanted to play for a long time, and the forums are kind of in love with NeO.

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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by jdch28 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:19 am

    Evican wrote:Ne Obliviscaris are out.

    Apparently they were asked, but the timing doesn't work for them.


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    by Pellaz » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:43 am

    Evican wrote:Ne Obliviscaris are out.

    Apparently they were asked, but the timing doesn't work for them.


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Jotunheimr » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 am

    Speedy wrote:All bands playing Winter Days of Metal (31.01.-04.02.), so far:
    Wyrd, Arkona :cry: , Asphyx, Milking the Goatmachine, Grailknights :cry: , Hour of Penance, Fleshless, Srd, Carnage Calligraphy, Novacrow, Infected Chaos and Immorgon


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    by Memnoch » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:24 am

    bodomdragon wrote:Arkona ruled out feels almost as good as a wishlist announcement to me.


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by FelipeS » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:23 am

    TPH wrote:They have a show on Monday in Orlando...might as well enjoy my trip to the US to the fullest!
    I'll definitely check if I can make it.


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Bob » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:40 am

    Memnoch wrote:
    bodomdragon wrote:Arkona ruled out feels almost as good as a wishlist announcement to me.


    Damn me, stop posting from other people's accounts. :lol:


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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by JoAnnamayhem » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:09 pm

    Spoke to Carach Angren, they said unfortunately at the moment they know nothing about being on board or not. Just throwing this out there.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by bodomdragon » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:14 am

    I had a cool chat with urban breed from Serious Black. They were offered to join the boat in a previous edition, don't know which one, but the offer was not good enough and they had to decline. They haven't heard back from UMC so for the moment it is unlikely that they'll be onbroad. I hope this changes, though, they're amazing.
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    Re: What bands can be ruled out for 2018?

    by Jimbo2392 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:31 pm

    Pestilence can be ruled out. Has tour dates during cruise. :bitch:
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