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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by toby » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:49 am

    Pellaz wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:39 pm
    Godflesh wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:38 pm The social media team replied in a comment on Facebook that "before end of July" was something possible.
    I think bodomdragon will be the winner.
    lol. "Something possible." :lol: :lol:
    That is the new SOOOON apparently.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cegr80 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:19 pm

    Sgt. B wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:25 amCegr80 must be getting lazy.
    I was stuck down here in Mexico in a kinda shitty job. No internet
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Cardest » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:06 am

    Well...we are about to hear from the fans who will attend Heavy Montreal this coming weekend and if there's only hot tubs and boat promotion with no band announcements/ticket news then, I would say that's really poor form and we continue to ponder and wait.
    So I reckon there's gotta be something this week.
    Surely.




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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Pellaz » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:13 am

    I'll just stick the dagger in my ribs and administer the coup de grace myself.

    I was really hoping I'd get good news during Geddy Lee's autographing session OR Iron Maiden's show last night, but oh well. :lol:

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:15 pm

    I think the deadline for payments is 7 days before sailing, Making it January 1st.

    That would mean that the last date to be able to enact a four-monthly-payments policy would be September 1st.

    Then they would need to give at least a week before that to allow time for people to get their shit together etc.

    Therefore we are pretty much guaranteed to hear something positive within the next month!!

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:43 pm

    The first announcements will be either on Friday (last year they came on a Friday) right before HM, or Saturday *at* HM, on YouTube.
    Either way, bodomdragon will be the winner.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:49 pm

    Godflesh wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:43 pm The first announcements will be either on Friday (last year they came on a Friday) right before HM, or Saturday *at* HM, on YouTube.
    Either way, bodomdragon will be the winner.
    I'm not 100% convinced it will go down like that. Has there ever been a corelation between HM and 70K announcements? I don't think so.....

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Amalu » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:38 am

    Well, after my longtime forced abstinence from the 70k forum, let's dive right into the big crystal ball guessing game.

    I'll stick to same day I did last year. The skipper will be choosing my birthday again this year. First announcement on 31st August.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Phoenix » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:39 am

    Looks like Godflesh is not long for this world :lol: Also, welcome back, Amalu!

    RIP

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    March 31st cowboy71
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    July 5th toby
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    July 10th Hoppy McGee
    July 16th Sgt. B
    July 20th Pellaz
    :death:


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    July 24th Godflesh
    July 26th bodomdragon
    August 2nd twoandfortysix
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:14 pm

    I can still win if the announcements are on Thursday (yeah, right!).
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cegr80 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:59 am

    "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."
    RIP Godflesh AND Rutger Hauer

    Let's see if a certain spaniard passes away...

    RIP

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    March 28th Castroh
    March 31st cowboy71
    April 12th jodionline
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    April 30th downvod
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    May 4th Ethrivas
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    May 10th Jeyrow
    May 15th JamieS
    May 15th metalforever
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    July 5th toby
    July 9th Ti7aNiC, JoAnnamayhem
    July 10th Hoppy McGee
    July 16th Sgt. B
    July 20th Pellaz
    July 24th Godflesh
    :death:

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cegr80 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:49 am

    "NO, NO, NO, DIOS MIO AUXILIOOOOOOOOO!!!! "

    RIP

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    July 3rd meshuggah, Cardest
    July 5th toby
    July 9th Ti7aNiC, JoAnnamayhem
    July 10th Hoppy McGee
    July 16th Sgt. B
    July 20th Pellaz
    July 24th Godflesh
    July 26th bodomdragon
    :death:

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:38 am

    He can still win if announcements come before Friday, so technically not dead yet.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Ti7aNiC » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:02 pm

    Godflesh wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:38 am He can still win if announcements come before Friday, so technically not dead yet.
    No way - you gotta be bang on.

    My #New prediction is an announcement from HeavyMTL. If not during the festival, then on Monday. But that still means nobody wins.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Pellaz » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:57 pm

    Ti7aNiC wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:02 pm
    Godflesh wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:38 am He can still win if announcements come before Friday, so technically not dead yet.
    No way - you gotta be bang on.
    Well, this has stirred up some debate in the past.

    In order to "win," does your guess have to be exactly right, or the closest guess (ranging forward OR backward), or the closest guess AFTER the actual announcement date?
    .
    .
    My #New prediction is an announcement from HeavyMTL. If not during the festival, then on Monday.
    <checks watch>
    Tick, tick, tick.... Sill nothing from Heavy MTL. Not even a flyer with Borknagar on it.
    "Say, look at our awesome hot-tub! We've been doing this cruise every year now for ten years! What bands are playing, you ask? ..... Say, look at our awesome hot-tub!" :lol:
    .
    .
    But that still means nobody wins.
    Who cares wins? :twisted:

    Really, no-one wins because Andy keeps playing us like a cheap fiddle. And we keep coming back because, after all is said and done, the lineup will be at least decent or "adequate," the crowd is awesome and diverse, and logistically the festival is still pretty fucking amazing.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:05 pm

    And then (realistically) there were five:

    August 2nd twoandfortysix
    August 5th mbob
    August 11th CaughtInAWeb
    August 31st Amalu
    September 1st AstridDragon


    Because anyone else is past the date when 4 equal monthly payments is no longer possible (Amalu and Astrid are probably so close to be pushing it too).

    So bright-side, unless there is a huge change in the wind (ie - no more 4-equal-monthly-payments option) first announcement MUST be less than a month away !! :P
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by PotatoPotahto » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:37 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:05 pm So bright-side, unless there is a huge change in the wind (ie - no more 4-equal-monthly-payments option) first announcement MUST be less than a month away !! :P
    FAQ on the home page has already been updated for 2020 and says 4 month payment plan is available up to September 29th. They've got to be closer than a month away though.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Cardest » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:58 pm

    I was hoping that someone here was at HeavyMTL this weekend and can go wonder on over past the hot tubs and see what's on display. Any news etc?
    Seems that there is nothing to report.
    So far.


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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:09 pm

    PotatoPotahto wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:37 pm
    cowboy71 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:05 pm So bright-side, unless there is a huge change in the wind (ie - no more 4-equal-monthly-payments option) first announcement MUST be less than a month away !! :P
    FAQ on the home page has already been updated for 2020 and says 4 month payment plan is available up to September 29th. They've got to be closer than a month away though.
    Ah yes, I was thinking 4 months , but 4 monthly payments is actually only a three month timeframe (Sept 29-Oct 29-Nov-29 Dec-29) so it could still conceivably be over a month away.

    I'm sad now :(

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:05 pm

    Cardest wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:58 pm I was hoping that someone here was at HeavyMTL this weekend and can go wonder on over past the hot tubs and see what's on display. Any news etc?
    Seems that there is nothing to report.
    So far.
    Someone reported on FB that Andy said no announcements this weekend (“Not THAT soon... but soon”).
    More importantly, they have luxury air-conditioned restrooms inside an RV! Check out the vid they posted.
    They’re also throwing 70K balloons in the audience.
    All this “look at us!” budget and nothing to say, not even a new logo. So sad.
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    by cowboy71 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:28 pm

    "LOOK AT US! WE'RE PROMOTING!!"

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Phoenix » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:53 am

    Pellaz wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:57 pm Really, no-one wins because Andy keeps playing us like a cheap fiddle. And we keep coming back because, after all is said and done, the lineup will be at least decent or "adequate," the crowd is awesome and diverse, and logistically the festival is still pretty fucking amazing.
    I'd argue that band announcements are PART of the logistics, bringing down the rest of the relatively smooth sailing that happens with the festival. Though you're right, he still run a tight ship, despite the fact that he can't get girlie merch right.

    That's why I still feel no draw to go next year. What's Andy going to do to appease my discontent with the announcement process? Announce In Vain again?

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Danny24601 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:56 am

    On the bright side, once announcements start there can't be a big announcement gap! As there simply isn't time for one.....
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Pellaz » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:50 pm

    Danny24601 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:56 am On the bright side, once announcements start there can't be a big announcement gap! As there simply isn't time for one.....
    I'm sure the Skipper will be able to find new ways to slip gaps in. :lol:
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:03 pm

    161 days to go! One more week, and we will break the 2019 cruise 'record' for shortest amount of time between first announcement and sailing!!! :lol: :roll:

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:59 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:03 pm 161 days to go! One more week, and we will break the 2019 cruise 'record' for shortest amount of time between first announcement and sailing!!! :lol: :roll:

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Cardest » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:27 pm

    I'm sick and tired of all this waiting.

    What the hell is taking so long?


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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Cardest » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:34 pm

    The last thing I wanna do is make the 4th and final installment payment for the cabin whilst I'm already over there in the US.

    How bloody frustrating.

    I thought for sure we'd have bands last weekend at the Heavy MTL.
    So why go and set up hot tubs and not have a single band to celebrate?
    Just a promo thing?
    I hate the word "soon" now more than any other word.


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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Phoenix » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 am

    Cardest wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:27 pm I'm sick and tired of all this waiting.

    What the hell is taking so long?
    You must have taken a long break :P

    Reminder that last year we didn't have a SINGLE word from Heavy MTL, 70k didn't even have a presence. We didn't get an announcement until the very ass end of August. I think the best you can hope for is... tomorrow. Otherwise I'd expect August 31st again.

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by toby » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:43 am

    Phoenix wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 amI'd expect August 31st again.
    I think the difference is that the cruise is almost a month earlier than this year.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Phoenix » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:36 am

    toby wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:43 am
    Phoenix wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:58 amI'd expect August 31st again.
    I think the difference is that the cruise is almost a month earlier than this year.
    Yes, that's why I said the best you can hope for is tomorrow. But I truly don't think it'll be before August. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Downvod » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:42 am

    cowboy71 wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:49 pm
    Godflesh wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:43 pm The first announcements will be either on Friday (last year they came on a Friday) right before HM, or Saturday *at* HM, on YouTube.
    Either way, bodomdragon will be the winner.
    I'm not 100% convinced it will go down like that. Has there ever been a corelation between HM and 70K announcements? I don't think so.....

    Hoping you are right though!
    Not a correlation, but every time they’ve had a presence there, announcements had already previously started. I would say that showing up there this year with nothing to display (bands, 2020 logo, nothing) is about the strangest thing I’ve ever seen from UMC. Why waste the time and money?
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by jeyrow » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:10 pm

    A N D Y Y Y Y

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Yippee38 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:07 pm

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Danny24601 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:48 pm

    Time for some reckless speculation.

    From observing past lineups, we know that Andy always starts announcements with a headline-tier act who has never played 70k before. As time goes by, the list of acts who fit that description shrinks, and in the last few years there has only been one act per year that fit that description (2015 - Apocalyptica, 2016 - Cradle, 2017 - Anthrax, 2018 - Meshuggah, 2019 - Accept). This means that no matter how many bands Andy has lined up, in order to obey this rule he needs to wait to start announcements until he can announce that one band who is headline level and has never played before. If that one headline act has a tour clause forbidding it from announcing more NA dates until it's currently announced tour is completed, this may explain the delay in announcements.

    What band could headline 70k, has never played before, is composed of members who have repeatedly and enthusiastically played the cruise, and has a North American tour ending September 4th?

    I predict the first announcement will be Demons and Wizards, September 5th.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:49 pm

    My analysis.

    Last year, First bands announced Sept 1st, emails to Gold Survivors sent around Sept 3rd, booking for Gold survivors started Sept 5th, and I believe silver opened on Sept 15th, and public sales Oct 3rd. Cutoff for the 4-payment-plan was Oct 24th.

    So if the same sort of timelines held for 2020, we can work backwards from the September 29th cutoff and assume the following:

    Cut-off for 4-payment Plan: Sept 29th
    Public Sales - 21 days before cutoff above-mentioned: Sept 8th
    Silver Sales - 18 days before public: Aug 21st
    Gold Sales - 10 days before Silver: Aug 11th
    Emails to Gold Survivors - 2 days prior to sales opening: Aug 9th
    First Bands - Aug 7th

    There you go - that's my new prediction.

    First Bands will be announced August 7th.

    *******NOTE: These dates are for me, an Australian :) So depending on where you are in the world it could be a day earlier :)
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by Godflesh » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm

    Small correction: announcements started on the Friday (8/31 or Saturday 9/1 for you), and the email was on the Sunday (9/2, or Monday 9/3 for you), so 2 days later.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cowboy71 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:58 pm

    Godflesh wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:34 pm Small correction: announcements started on the Friday (8/31 or Saturday 9/1 for you), and the email was on the Sunday (9/2, or Monday 9/3 for you), so 2 days later.
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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by cegr80 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:07 am

    Adding statsman's well-explained announcement date to the list. He is the ONLY one who can get a second chance cuz, well, he's the statsman :P

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    Re: Guess the first announcement date, 2020

    by toby » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:53 am

    cegr80 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:07 am Adding statsman's well-explained announcement date to the list. He is the ONLY one who can get a second chance cuz, well, he's the statsman :P
    Him getting a second shot doesn't bother me, but since he's talking about his August 7th, wouldn't that still be August 6th here in NA technically?
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