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    Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:41 am

    http://www.royalcaribbean.com/customers ... aqType=faq

    this is from Royal Caribbean's page. Note that it mentions 15% tips are added to bar tabs! These are some huge tips and i don't consider myself to be stingy. However keep in mind the cruise ship staff have VERY VERY low base wages. Very low! Just thought I'd put this out there!!!
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Element0s » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:03 am

    Add $249 per person for taxes, pre-paid gratuities, port charges, booking, and ticketing.


    From the main page. I was under the impression that this cost was to include our tipping for the duration of the trip? Unless I'm getting "gratuities" mixed up with something else
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Lala » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:15 am

    I don't expect to pay any tip......

    Add $249 per person for taxes, pre-paid gratuities, port charges, booking, and ticketing.
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    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:15 am

    Pfft i'm not tipping anybody.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Heabymetawhunta » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:23 am

    This seems like a worse tip scheme than the hardrock cafe. Expensive motherfuckers :evil:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by ShoreSlayer » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:41 am

    Tip if you choose to but it's not expected as, technically, you've already done so.

    Now, if you happen to be an extra demanding patron or you get service that you feel is above and beyond, I'm sure they're allowed to accept additional gratitude :cheers:
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    by debborah1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:50 am

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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by DragonLordJones » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:51 am

    well if it means getting faster service and a happy bartender, I'm not afraid to toss a few coins into a tip jar :cheers: :givebeer:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:21 am

    ShoreSlayer wrote:Tip if you choose to but it's not expected as, technically, you've already done so.

    Now, if you happen to be an extra demanding patron or you get service that you feel is above and beyond, I'm sure they're allowed to accept additional gratitude :cheers:

    You mean like if they give you a blowjob? :lol:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by ShoreSlayer » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:29 am

    Metalwrath wrote:
    ShoreSlayer wrote:Tip if you choose to but it's not expected as, technically, you've already done so.

    Now, if you happen to be an extra demanding patron or you get service that you feel is above and beyond, I'm sure they're allowed to accept additional gratitude :cheers:

    You mean like if they give you a blowjob? :lol:

    Only if it's enthusiastic and there's lots of eye contact. Otherwise, I think it's included in the $249.00 :twisted:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:31 am

    Ok Pengy i hope you're right. maybe one of the organizers can clear this up - if gratuities are included i'll probably still leave extra in the cabin and for bartenders/servers if they do a great job, but not at the rates given on that page.

    i also plan on hitting up the Windjammer cafe for most meals. buffet style, serve yourself, nice and quick. i can't see taking up precious metal time with lengthy meals. plus they will have sushi there. i plan to eat healthy as much as possible.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by debborah1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:35 am

    ShoreSlayer wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:
    ShoreSlayer wrote:Tip if you choose to but it's not expected as, technically, you've already done so.

    Now, if you happen to be an extra demanding patron or you get service that you feel is above and beyond, I'm sure they're allowed to accept additional gratitude :cheers:

    You mean like if they give you a blowjob? :lol:

    Only if it's enthusiastic and there's lots of eye contact. Otherwise, I think it's included in the $249.00 :twisted:

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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by last_candle » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:52 am

    the $ gets cheaper with every day :twisted:
    (but the dollar doesn't go downhill like the EURO does...)
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by junkhead13 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:57 am

    Yeah, I am not a demanding person by any means, so I don't think there will be much if any tipping by me...

    Maybe if one of the crew members sees me stumbling around drunkenly and saves me from falling overboard.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Andy » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:01 pm

    The pre-paid gratuities included in the taxes and fees portion of the ticket price cover only the gratuities for the dining room servers, stateroom attendants, housekeeping and cabin steward.

    The cruise line automatically adds 15% gratuity on alcoholic beverages.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by last_candle » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:02 pm

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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by debborah1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:02 pm

    Andy wrote:The pre-paid gratuities included in the taxes and fees portion of the ticket price cover only the gratuities for the dining room servers, stateroom attendants, housekeeping and cabin steward.

    The cruise line automatically adds 15% gratuity on alcoholic beverages.

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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by DragonLordJones » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:04 pm

    thanks for clearing that up Andy :cheers:


    i guess if I'm already giving 15%, i won't won't be tossing extra in a cup
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Lala » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:25 pm

    This is a Bill from the Outback Steakhouse South Beach. It seems to be usual procedure in South Florida to give a tip plus the tip.
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    The cruise line automatically adds 15% gratuity on alcoholic beverages.


    i like to hear that 7 month and 1 day after the booking ......
    what about coke/pepsi - that's carbonated and therefore not included in the icetea/juice/water - also with a tip?
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Disaster Area » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:47 pm

    Normally the only guys we tip are the luggage porters that carry our checked bags onto the boat ($1 per bag is customary) and our cabin steward $20 or so. Otherwise the prepaid gratuity covers everyone else.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by debborah1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:55 pm

    Disaster Area wrote:Normally the only guys we tip are the luggage porters that carry our checked bags onto the boat ($1 per bag is customary) and our cabin steward $20 or so. Otherwise the prepaid gratuity covers everyone else.

    thanx...good to know.....Im a good tipper...and I would hate to assume people were being tipped...and end up looking like a cheap skate
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by asmegin » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:10 pm

    The last royal cruise was like this. I didn't have to pay anything at all. But at the same time when you converse with the bartender or waiter and get friendly you can't help to give em a tip for their great service.

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    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:43 pm

    15%? on a beer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats fucking outrageous.
    Don't those people get paid to server beer anyway?
    In Europe there is no mandiroy tip bullshit.
    You either tip them or you don't
    Why would i have to tip somebody 15% every time i order a beer?
    Can i not jsut give them the money and then pour the beer myself?
    It's not like it's difficult to do :lol:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by last_candle » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:16 pm

    indeed very unusual for as Europeans
    they'd rather make the beer more expensive and pay'em a better
    the result would be the same...you just don't feel "robbed"...
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:46 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:15%? on a beer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats fucking outrageous.
    Don't those people get paid to server beer anyway?
    In Europe there is no mandiroy tip bullshit.
    You either tip them or you don't
    Why would i have to tip somebody 15% every time i order a beer?
    Can i not jsut give them the money and then pour the beer myself?
    It's not like it's difficult to do :lol:



    i guess it's already included in the drink prices according to Andy!
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:48 pm

    rhiawiz wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:15%? on a beer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats fucking outrageous.
    Don't those people get paid to server beer anyway?
    In Europe there is no mandiroy tip bullshit.
    You either tip them or you don't
    Why would i have to tip somebody 15% every time i order a beer?
    Can i not jsut give them the money and then pour the beer myself?
    It's not like it's difficult to do :lol:



    i guess it's already included in the drink prices according to Andy!

    Which makes me wonder what the drink prices are gonna be like on the cruise.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:50 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:
    rhiawiz wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:15%? on a beer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats fucking outrageous.
    Don't those people get paid to server beer anyway?
    In Europe there is no mandiroy tip bullshit.
    You either tip them or you don't
    Why would i have to tip somebody 15% every time i order a beer?
    Can i not jsut give them the money and then pour the beer myself?
    It's not like it's difficult to do :lol:



    i guess it's already included in the drink prices according to Andy!

    Which makes me wonder what the drink prices are gonna be like on the cruise.


    i think $5-$7 US?
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by debborah1 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:51 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:
    rhiawiz wrote:
    Metalwrath wrote:15%? on a beer? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats fucking outrageous.
    Don't those people get paid to server beer anyway?
    In Europe there is no mandiroy tip bullshit.
    You either tip them or you don't
    Why would i have to tip somebody 15% every time i order a beer?
    Can i not jsut give them the money and then pour the beer myself?
    It's not like it's difficult to do :lol:



    i guess it's already included in the drink prices according to Andy!

    Which makes me wonder what the drink prices are gonna be like on the cruise.

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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:58 pm

    debborah1 wrote:
    Disaster Area wrote:Normally the only guys we tip are the luggage porters that carry our checked bags onto the boat ($1 per bag is customary) and our cabin steward $20 or so. Otherwise the prepaid gratuity covers everyone else.

    thanx...good to know.....Im a good tipper...and I would hate to assume people were being tipped...and end up looking like a cheap skate


    yeah that is exactly what i wanna know! i normally tip 20% so the last thing i'd want is to screw anyone out of their tips or whatever.
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    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:59 pm

    Nah it's not that.I jsut don't approve of paying airport prices for a beer thats all.
    You gotta rmember some of us are going to be drinking a lot of booze every day on the cruise.
    At those prices it will add up very quickly.And it's difficlut for somebody who is used to going to festivals and cities and buying cheap cans of beer to get wasted hehe.
    And on the two 24 hour metal cruises i was on in Sweden you could buy tax free booze and drink it whenever you wanted as long as you didn't go near the bar or stage area with it.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Metalwrath » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:01 pm

    rhiawiz wrote:
    debborah1 wrote:
    Disaster Area wrote:Normally the only guys we tip are the luggage porters that carry our checked bags onto the boat ($1 per bag is customary) and our cabin steward $20 or so. Otherwise the prepaid gratuity covers everyone else.

    thanx...good to know.....Im a good tipper...and I would hate to assume people were being tipped...and end up looking like a cheap skate


    yeah that is exactly what i wanna know! i normally tip 20% so the last thing i'd want is to screw anyone out of their tips or whatever.

    I don't understand why yould tip people that high for a service they are already geting paid for.
    I don't get tips for my job or do most people.....
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by KevinP » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:19 pm

    ShoreSlayer wrote:Only if it's enthusiastic and there's lots of eye contact. Otherwise, I think it's included in the $249.00 :twisted:


    And another piece of the Rob puzzle falls into place. :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Anyways, YES, the USA is waaaaaay too "tip crazy". They talk about tipping your MAILMAN & GARBAGE MAN ( no chance in hell I'm going to comply with that). Heck, we are all roped into buying gifts for every damn teacher my daughter comes into contact with at school. My parents never had to give presents to any of my teachers growing up. The principle of it drives me more insane than the actual cost (which is somewhat annoying as well).

    Thankfully the only drinking I do is "wine at home", so never have to bother with bartender tips. I have no problem with doing the customary 15-20% at restaurants. But I'll be damned if I'm tipping government/state/county employees for their work. Your tip is MY tax dollars.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by WizardBeast » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:20 pm

    gnoff wrote:Tip to your hairdresser? And mandatory, more or less, at that. What the hell, just charge whatever it should cost ;)


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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by KevinP » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:24 pm

    gnoff wrote:What the hell, just charge whatever it should cost ;)


    I hear ya. We just had our carpets cleaned today. Cost $93 and we tipped the 2 guys who cleaned them $5 each ($10 total). Why I have to tip on something I'm already paying for is beyond me. :twisted: :mrgreen:

    Granted, it's not mandatory in this instance. But as long as you get good service (which I expect anyway for the $93) it's a "social norm" and good manners in the US of A.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by Malaka » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:30 pm

    Kevin, I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah, I don't mind tipping, but I don't feel I have to tip EVERYONE! Those in the service industry make much less than minimum wage, so their income is driven by tips. But tipping a mailman, fuck that. And no one other than my extremely immediate family get any kind of presents or a card over the holidays. Not that I'm stingy, but some deserve it and others don't.
    Back on topic, I will be tipping on the cruise regardless if it's included in the $249. I imagine I'll EAT $249 in food alone.
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by mooyagi » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:32 pm

    Just a note about the tipping system for bartenders. I have friends who are bartenders and they get paid maybe 1/4 of the minimum wage in the US per hour. Tips are the only way they can take home any kind of income. The system we have here is very fucked up where the servers/bartenders are paid outrageously low prices as a base salary and it's expected they make up most of their salary on tips. If they were not to receive tips, they would be living well below the poverty line. Since I have so many friends that work in the "hospitality" industry, I usually tip around 20% for a full bill. I may kick an extra buck or two to a bartender as well, and sometimes they return the favor by giving me free drinks :cool:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by KevinP » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:34 pm

    In the USA Waiters, waitress, etc. only make like $2 per hour, which is well below the Federal Minimum Wage. But they are able to get away with paying them so little if it's determined that their tips will add up to roughly $5-6 per hour (or some other # I'm not specifically sure of right now).

    So those workers depend upon TIPS for a majority of their pay (Europeans I assume earn a higher wage). This forces them to give good/quality service, otherwise they have the fear of not making enough money. (a good thing for the customer in many ways)

    I'm sure you can get into a whole debate over how the USA is uber Capitalism and Europe is more socialistic in this approach as well. But I don't have to stomach or desire to bother with that.

    So in the end there are good/bad points to the "tipping fiasco" we have :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by KevinP » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:38 pm

    mooyagi wrote:, I usually tip around 20% for a full bill. I may kick an extra buck or two to a bartender as well, and sometimes they return the favor by giving me free drinks :cool:


    :lol: I concur. You throw a few extra $$ and get some free drinks. You end up making out on the deal. The bartender makes a few extra $$ with no skin off their back, and the corporation takes it up the ass by giving away free stuff (and their costs go up as well). That's THE AMERICAN WAY :shred:
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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by mooyagi » Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:39 pm

    KevinP wrote:
    mooyagi wrote:, I usually tip around 20% for a full bill. I may kick an extra buck or two to a bartender as well, and sometimes they return the favor by giving me free drinks :cool:


    :lol: I concur. You throw a few extra $$ and get some free drinks. You end up making out on the deal. The bartender makes a few extra $$ with no skin off their back, and the corporation takes it up the ass by giving away free stuff (and their costs go up as well). That's THE AMERICAN WAY :shred:


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    Re: Tipping on the ship

    by AlabastRDisastR » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:19 pm

    Metalwrath wrote:Pfft i'm not tipping anybody.
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