Kory Clarke quits Trouble

[cowboy71]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=169358

"I just cannot play with people who are fundamentalist Christians, or too family-oriented to the point that they can't tour, do records or knock down a few margaritas with me at the bar. This is rock 'n' roll, guys, not the Family Channel."

What a cock - thought he was a dickweed for the 5 minutes of saw of him singing last year on the cruise.

Fuck off - good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

He is being replaced by Kyle Thomas - much better fit if you ask me:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=169379

[ShoreSlayer]

Best news I've heard in a LONG LONG time!!

Thanks so very VERY much for posting this Dallas!! Made my day!!!

[cowboy71]

My pleasure!!

I'm sure getting his negativity out of the way will inspire the guys to release some new stuff ASAP!!

[ShoreSlayer]

My pleasure!!

I'm sure getting his negativity out of the way will inspire the guys to release some new stuff ASAP!!

From what I understand, the guitars, bass and drums have been in the can for some time and it was just vocals that were holding things back. I'm very curious to know more from behind the scenes as his parting shots are certainly rife with hostility while they're public comments seem to be doing nothing but focusing on moving forward. I'll have to message my cabinmate from our first trip as he lives in Chicago and knows the guys well. Really like the sound of Kyle in that short video from way back. Much better fit and nothing of the square peg that Kory was.

[strangeways]

Chicago doom-metal legends TROUBLE have recruited Kyle Thomas as their new singer.

Thomas, former lead vocalist for EXHORDER, FLOODGATE, WITCH, and ALABAMA THUNDERPUSSY, is no stranger to TROUBLE as he previously fronted the band for four live shows between 1997 and 1999, including Stoner Hands Of Doom festival in Maryland (see video below) and Expo Of The Extreme in Chicago. Thomas has also collaborated on projects with members of SLIPKNOT, DOWN, OBITUARY and DEICIDE.

"We are really excited to be working with Kyle again," states Rick Wartell, TROUBLE co-founder/guitarist. "The shows we played with him in the past were very well-received by the fans and now we'll have an opportunity to work with him in the studio on our new record. His vocals are amazing and a perfect fit for the band."

Bruce Franklin, TROUBLE's other co-founder/guitarist, adds, "The history with Kyle and TROUBLE really goes back to his teenage years as he told me that he and Jimmy Bower (of DOWN) would drive around in his old Pinto and listen to TROUBLE. He's an excellent, highly energetic singer and it's great to have him be an official member of the band now."

TROUBLE is currently working on its ninth studio album with Thomas on vocals and plans to release the record this spring.

TROUBLE's current lineup is:



Kyle Thomas (vocals)
Rick Wartell (guitar)
Bruce Franklin (guitar)
Shane Pasqualla (bass)
Mark Lira (drums)

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I had no problem with Kory being in Trouble.

After all, I don't hang out with him or anything so all I cared about was the performance. I thought he was fine in that respect. I thought his voice was fine.

Sometimes things don't work out in a band and it's time to part ways.

As Trouble did with Eric and now Kory.

It would be nice if the two camps could part ways amicably as Trouble did with Eric.

Kory really did himself no favors by ripping the fans (some of them actually did like him in the band) and former band mates.

http://www.bravewords.com/news/177523

"After 4 years, and a minimal amount of Touring and no Record deal or Album release date in sight, frontman/ singer Kory Clarke leaves "Trouble" to start a new project with guitarist Russ Strahan (Pentagram, Land Of Doom) 'The Bones of Children'.
"This Metal Album will be high energy, with a fresh artistic approach to the genre without the limitations of the over “50 something religious crowd" Kory laughs, "it will be so nice to be working without the shackles that a previous singer has left behind of a band that is over 30 years old and acts and sounds like it. I like to do progressive, pushing the boundary lyrics in an individualistic style, I don’t want to sound like OZZY like their old singer tried to do. I am also glad when I look to my left on stage from now on, I will not be seeing 'Derek Smalls' in my peripheral vision. LOL. I just cannot play with people who are fundamentalist Christians, or too family oriented to the point that they can't tour, do records or knock down a few margaritas with me at the bar. This is rock n roll guys not the family channel."
- Kory Clarke

That statement was low class and unnecessary.

Kory is now saying that's not what he meant, but it's hard to believe him if you ask me.
This from his facebook page rep in response to my defending of what was obviously an attack at Bruce Franklin.

"As far as I know Kory doesn't feel he was slamming the band. He was slamming the negative Trouble fans in his own way.He was laughing in that press release. Kory has a great way with words. //C"

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 0474953843

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What's interesting is what will now happen with whatever they have already recorded with Kory.
Scrap it? Save it? Change it up?
I only heard two songs - one of which I liked (Hunters of Doom) and one that was meh (I'm Not Your Sucka').

I'm wondering how Kyle's vocal style will fit (the youtube clip of him playing with Trouble from 1999 is okay), but I'm certainly willing to give it a shot. I guess the proof will be when they put out a new album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvgqOzKZ ... r_embedded

[EvilDan]

"I just cannot play with people who are fundamentalist Christians, or too family-oriented to the point that they can't tour, do records or knock down a few margaritas with me at the bar. This is rock 'n' roll, guys, not the Family Channel."

Not familiar with the guy, and while I've seen Trouble, I'm not overly familiar with them. However, I have absolutely no problem with the above statement. I certainly have a low tolerance for the same kind of people in my life.

[cowboy71]

Trouble are christian.

Blind freddy can see that. If he has a problem with "those people" then don't accept the gig and don't hang around with them for FOUR YEARS.

That's like taking the gig as lead singer of Stryper and complaining because their too christian

[strangeways]

Trust me when I say that no one was forcing any religion or anything like that down Kory's throat.

While some of the members of TROUBLE might be spiritual none of them are on any type of crusade.
The bottom line is that a person shouldn't have to drink like a fish and party 24/7 with someone just to be in a band.
Trust me there are more than enough people that Kory can party with.

He doesn't need EVERYONE to always party with him in order to survive.

[ShoreSlayer]

One needs only to read a cpl song lyrics to see they're thing has ling been music that sounds evil but promotes positivity. But to call them fundamentalists is a huge stretch. And being more into family than getting wasted when yer in yer late 40's can't be a bad thing. In fact, it was Kory n' Rick gettin loaded n falling asleep on the ship in '11 that led to Bruce having to do the meet n greet (only one I attended) all by himself. Maybe cockrockboy needs to grow the fuck up a little (yes, I'm bitter lol)

[KevinP]

In fact, it was Kory n' Rick gettin loaded n falling asleep on the ship in '11 that led to Bruce having to do the meet n greet (only one I attended) all by himself. Maybe cockrockboy needs to grow the fuck up a little (yes, I'm bitter lol)

Nice

And his voice sucks anyways, along with Warrior Soul. Good riddance to his broken glass larynx

[TOM CRUISE]

I missed Trouble in 2011 on the cruise. Being a huge Eric Wagner fan and all. Plus a close friend of mine went to Foundations forum 90 and met Kory who was in Warrior soul at the time and he was a arrogant asshole to him.

[cowboy71]

I missed Trouble in 2011 on the cruise. Being a huge Eric Wagner fan and all. Plus a close friend of mine went to Foundations forum 90 and met Kory who was in Warrior soul at the time and he was a arrogant asshole to him.

I would kill a church full of christians to have seen Eric fronting Trouble 'back in the day'

Okay, maybe that's a bit extreme

But damn I loved Psalm 9, The Skull, Run To The Light!!

In fact I think I'll have to listen to 'em again tonite!!

[TOM CRUISE]

I missed Trouble in 2011 on the cruise. Being a huge Eric Wagner fan and all. Plus a close friend of mine went to Foundations forum 90 and met Kory who was in Warrior soul at the time and he was a arrogant asshole to him.

I would kill a church full of christians to have seen Eric fronting Trouble 'back in the day'

Okay, maybe that's a bit extreme

But damn I loved Psalm 9, The Skull, Run To The Light!!

In fact I think I'll have to listen to 'em again tonite!!

I did. Dynamo 98 on the Stoner Stage with Cathedral, Orange Goblin, Spiritual Beggers and The Hellacopters !!!! WOWW

[ShoreSlayer]

But damn I loved Psalm 9, The Skull, Run To The Light!!

In fact I think I'll have to listen to 'em again tonite!!

Those 3 albums and some classic Priest were the soundtrack to my traveling across the continent to get to Orlando this year. Still had riffs n' melodies from The Wish and Thinking About The Past running thru my head on day 2 of the cruise lol

Yeah, I saw them live with Eric once and it was fucking spiritual (and I don't mean christian haha)

[STACH100]

I saw Trouble with Eric many times.
When I saw Trouble on the cruise last year it looked like Kory Clarke was in one band and the other guys were playing in another.
He didn't even fit visually, vocally or stage presence wise, it was not a good fit.

[Whiskeyjack]

I did. Dynamo 98 on the Stoner Stage with Cathedral, Orange Goblin, Spiritual Beggers and The Hellacopters !!!! WOWW

WOWW is right! Jealous on that. Very.

[TOM CRUISE]

LOL the black stage had

Immortal/Emperor/Enslaved/Bewitched/The Kovenant

[strangeways]

TROUBLE issue statement regarding Kory Clarke.

http://www.facebook.com/TroubleChicago
"Trouble would like to thank everyone for their support and enthusiasm regarding the announcement of our new singer Kyle Thomas. It is your continued loyalty that helps to fuel our drive to bring you the best music we can make. We would also like to take this opportunity to say that we wish Kory Clarke the best with all of his future endeavors."


EARTHEN GRAVE guitarist Tony Spillman has also weighed in on the topic...
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Spi ... 0607596238
"I don’t normally talk about personal things on Facebook, but ugly has raised its head. In light of recent activities with Trouble relieving Kory Clarke of his vocal duties he felt the need to go on Blabbermouth and give his view of the situation. Which of course is completely untrue. 1st of all he said that he quit the band and listed a number of reasons, starting a new band. (Good Luck Russ) Truth is, he was fired! Overall it was my understanding that the Trouble fans have spoken. Then he cut down fans/people over 50 years old and HE is over 50 years old ? Then he talked about Troubles religious crowd, I have toured with Trouble a number of times throughout the years and I have met a variety of religious people. Christians, Satanist, Buddhists, Atheists and some religions I have never even heard of. I noticed he did not say was how Joey and I had to save him from all those religious fans in Cleveland that wanted to crucify him. Then he started to talk about Eric sounding like Ozzy? REALLY, WHEN? And finally in making reference to my friend of 34 years, Bruce Franklin to Derek Smalls was when Kory showed that not only does he have any character, but also as my friend Lemme would say NO CLASS! Bruce has been nothing but a professional musician and person regardless of his religious perspective and anyone who knows him will say the same thing. Kory was with the band for way too long and still didn’t know the words to the songs even the melodies. He talks about how he can’t play with Christians or family oriented people. Professional?
HEY KORY, YOU CAN’T PLAY! GO HAVE ANOTHER MARGARITA!!"

[ShoreSlayer]

Thanks for posting Gene!

It appears I have another hero to add to my list of 'the good guys'

[cowboy71]

Thanks for posting Gene!

It appears I have another hero to add to my list of 'the good guys'

LOL - indeed.

No idea who Tony Spillman is but I fuckin' love him now

[strangeways]

http://lesliesmetal-page.blogspot.com/2 ... homas.html

Q: During the end of the ’90s you were involved in Trouble as well, how did you get in the picture exactly? Can you tell us more about this period?

KYLE: Ron Holzner and I knew each other a bit and he took a liking to Floodgate. Helped us out a lot. He's a great friend for sure. There was a show in Chicago called Expo of the Extreme that had bands and pornstars, like a big convention. It was pretty interesting to say the least. Trouble had agreed to reunite without Eric Wagner and do songs with several singers, and I was invited. Somewhere along the line everyone else dropped out and I ended up doing the whole set. It was one of my favorite moments in my musical life. We ended up doing a few more shows and talked of recording until they decided to reunite with Eric. As a fan I'm glad they did.

[STACH100]

http://lesliesmetal-page.blogspot.com/2009/02/exhorder-with-kyle-thomas.html

Q: During the end of the ’90s you were involved in Trouble as well, how did you get in the picture exactly? Can you tell us more about this period?

KYLE: Ron Holzner and I knew each other a bit and he took a liking to Floodgate. Helped us out a lot. He's a great friend for sure. There was a show in Chicago called Expo of the Extreme that had bands and pornstars, like a big convention. It was pretty interesting to say the least. Trouble had agreed to reunite without Eric Wagner and do songs with several singers, and I was invited. Somewhere along the line everyone else dropped out and I ended up doing the whole set. It was one of my favorite moments in my musical life. We ended up doing a few more shows and talked of recording until they decided to reunite with Eric. As a fan I'm glad they did.

That is a good read.
Thanks G

[strangeways]

New Interview

http://www.bravewords.com/braveboard/vi ... 2#p2826172

[ShoreSlayer]

New Interview

http://www.bravewords.com/braveboard/vi ... 2#p2826172

A challenging and awkward read but very interesting too.

Thnx fer postin

[Disco]

I didn't see Trouble at all on the cruise. I did meet the drummer in the elevator on the first morning. He was kind of frustrated because he was having problems with set up and one of the other bands because I think he had to share a drum set.

Anyways...

I just starting getting into Trouble and definitely like their sound. I don't know the history though so, what happened to Wagner? How come he's not with the band anymore?

[ShoreSlayer]

I just starting getting into Trouble and definitely like their sound. I don't know the history though so, what happened to Wagner? How come he's not with the band anymore?

Welcome to some of (what I consider to be) some of the greatest twin guitar, Sabbath-esque doom metal you'll ever hear Disco!

Strangeways can probably shed more light on it all than I can (and I believe a fair bit of it is documented online) but the short version revolves around a combination of creative and lifestyle differences between Eric and the rest of the guys. As you listen to their catalog, you may notice a strong infusion of Beatles/Psychedelic influence around the time of Manic Frustration, Plastic Green Head and on into Simple Mind Condition. Not sure if I heard or read this somewhere or am just making assumptions but I think the guitarists (Bruce and Rick) were more into the Sabbath type stuff from the 70's while Eric was more of a Beatles guy and that the sound on these later albums is a reflection of the band compromising amongst themselves on matters of influence and the direction of their sound. While not as 'heavy' as earlier works, many of the songs of these albums are still greatly crafted metal classics for lots of Trouble fans.