What's wrong with a little attitude? Why do you think so many "untalented" bands make it? They bring an attitude to their music that pushes them over the top. Look at the entire punk movement for examle. You're looking for refinement and sophistication in a subgenre that was built on neither.
I also take offense to you comment about "after delving through underground metal, you can't understand how you could still revere your old favorites." Dude, most of the underground bands you've listed that will never enjoy any success whatsoever and not be remembered in 10-15 years. They don't matter. These bands have limited runs for 3 albums and that's it. These bands could never even come close to touching Megadeth's run of Peace Sells through Countdown to Exinction. That's 4 albums in a row that just destroy anything. Whose touching those 4 albums with bands you are listening to now? It'll never happen.
Also with Megadeth, how big are you on Peace Sells? I don't really see a huge difference from worshipping Peace Sells and then worshipping most old Slayer albums. An album like Peace Sells was on fire and still holds up today. Just an unbelievable disc.
P.S. God Hates Us All is Slayer's worst album. You guys talk to the German contingent on the cruise? Those guys make you look like the biggest posers on earth. I appreciated the one guy calling me a fag for saying I like Children of Bodom.
I never said anything is wrong with a little attitude, I mean if you read the post I wrote to Rhia up there somewhere, I certainly do listen to a lot of aggressive bands, but (as I've stated multiple times before) FOR ME there needs to be that extra something. Never once did I say anything about bands being 'untalented', I just outlined that indeed certain bands put less of a focus
on musicianship. As for the punk movement, that's where I started out before metal. I was into The Casualties and The Exploited (and for the more commercial stuff, bands like Rancid and NoFX and such), where attitude certainly is a lot of it. All I'm saying is that opinions and tastes change.. by the time I was into metal having 'just' attitude didn't cut it for me anymore. As for refinement and sophistication, well, fucking nothing
was built on that. That car you drive? The iphone in your pocket? The computer you're typing on? Man, times change. That's not really a relevant argument.
As for your taking offence to one of my comments... well I specifically made sure that I was telling you about how it was MY opinion and how if affected ME. You can be offended by shit on the internet until the cows come home, but I was just giving my side to something that I openly addressed to the community. Of course I still revere my old favorites. Of course you do too. But to still think that a certain band or bands are the be-all-end-all of the genre seems silly to me. I will always worship bands like Led Zeppelin and such that originally led me down this path... but fuck, I wasn't alive when they were popular, and I can't even begin to imagine the sheer number of how many similar and amazing underground bands there were at the time. Were they the best at their craft? Probably fucking not. Does that make them any less revered? Nope.
Now, when you start bringing things to the table like this "Dude, most of the underground bands you've listed that will never enjoy any success whatsoever and not be remembered in 10-15 years. They don't matter. These bands have limited runs for 3 albums and that's it.", that's where we differ GREATLY. You seem to put a lot of emphasis on commercial success and popularity. I don't give half a fuck if any of the bands I listen to right now are remembered, the point is that they make an impression
on my life and my tastes as I am now. In a bunch of ways, all of the bands I listen to or have listened to have changed my perspective and outlook in small ways, and generally made my life better. That means infinitely more to me than whether or not they sold a million albums. It isn't a dick-measuring contest, it's art (and it's subjective). As for a band touching the PS(AWB)-CTE run of megadeth albums, well, yes of course that's an amazing run. But it's not the eighties anymore. Metal bands don't headline stadium tours. It's the digital age and the age of rock stars is over. I will be surprised if any metal band from here on out experiences popularity and fame like the big bands of the eighties.
As for Peace sells, I think that's a great album. Megadeth will likely never put out songs as raw or effective as Good Mourning/Black Friday or My Last Words ever again. But megadeth has the musical element. There was a certain technicality that they evolved with that shined through especially on (in my opinion) their magnum opus, Rust in Peace. Then again, I love it when bands change. I like seeing the evolution through a band's career as they grow and experiment, even if it's something that somewhat flops like Metallica's last twenty years. Why? Because people change. Music evolves, and people don't want to adhere to the same thing forever.
Anyways, this has kind of digressed from the main curiosity I had. I was looking for some musical perspective on why slayer is so popular among metalheads. I understand the attitude thing, I understand the escapist, rebellious youth and raw power, but I was looking if anyone had a real connection with the music or a real emotional connection with the band (a la Marlo), not criticism about my music tastes (or why the bands I like don't matter) from someone who is butthurt that I don't like their favorite band. I understand slayer is important to you and others... I really just wanted to know why. If it's the attitude thing, then I'm totally ok with that and will concede that it's unlikely that I'll ever be a huge fan. But it looks like they're doing ok... the absence of one not-so-angry metalhead surely can't hurt them or their fans.