The announcement post sort of seems to suggest it will be 2 Anthems sets, unless I’m reading into it too much.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:09 pm I'm really curious what Emperor will end up playing, because they only really have 4 albums, and they rarely play too much off their last 2 albums. They've been playing Anthems live in it's entirety a lot recently, and they have played Nightside Eclipse in it's entirety in the past. What do we think the odds are they will play each record completely while on board? I have a hard time thinking of how they will fill two 75-min sets otherwise, unless they just repeat the same set twice or develop a sudden affinity for playing IX and Prometheus material live.
Their influential role in the development of black metal, and the billings they tend to get at other metal festivals. Their relative inactivity over the past decade+ probably explains their low number of online fans, but also makes their rare live appearances more headliner-worthy.
I must be reading it differently since I don't see that. I don't think any band has done a special album set twice. It's always been only 1 time with a more traditional touring set the other time.Downvod wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:47 pmThe announcement post sort of seems to suggest it will be 2 Anthems sets, unless I’m reading into it too much.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:09 pm I'm really curious what Emperor will end up playing, because they only really have 4 albums, and they rarely play too much off their last 2 albums. They've been playing Anthems live in it's entirety a lot recently, and they have played Nightside Eclipse in it's entirety in the past. What do we think the odds are they will play each record completely while on board? I have a hard time thinking of how they will fill two 75-min sets otherwise, unless they just repeat the same set twice or develop a sudden affinity for playing IX and Prometheus material live.
Yep, this in a nutshell.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:49 pmTheir influential role in the development of black metal, and the billings they tend to get at other metal festivals. Their relative inactivity over the past decade+ probably explains their low number of online fans, but also makes their rare live appearances more headliner-worthy.
Also, first band announced is always a headliner, so they're for sure getting 75 min.
RIght, bands don't normally do album sets twice. But in Emperor's case, their "traditional touring set" right now includes Anthems in it's entirety, hence the question of whether they will play it twice, or what will happen. Should be some interesting sets, anyhow.
If we get an Anthems and Nightside set I'd be more than happy.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:48 pmRIght, bands don't normally do album sets twice. But in Emperor's case, their "traditional touring set" right now includes Anthems in it's entirety, hence the question of whether they will play it twice, or what will happen. Should be some interesting sets, anyhow.
Rage played a full album set twice this year.mooyagi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:24 amI must be reading it differently since I don't see that. I don't think any band has done a special album set twice. It's always been only 1 time with a more traditional touring set the other time.Downvod wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:47 pmThe announcement post sort of seems to suggest it will be 2 Anthems sets, unless I’m reading into it too much.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:09 pm I'm really curious what Emperor will end up playing, because they only really have 4 albums, and they rarely play too much off their last 2 albums. They've been playing Anthems live in it's entirety a lot recently, and they have played Nightside Eclipse in it's entirety in the past. What do we think the odds are they will play each record completely while on board? I have a hard time thinking of how they will fill two 75-min sets otherwise, unless they just repeat the same set twice or develop a sudden affinity for playing IX and Prometheus material live.
mooyagi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:24 amI must be reading it differently since I don't see that. I don't think any band has done a special album set twice. It's always been only 1 time with a more traditional touring set the other time.Downvod wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:47 pmThe announcement post sort of seems to suggest it will be 2 Anthems sets, unless I’m reading into it too much.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:09 pm I'm really curious what Emperor will end up playing, because they only really have 4 albums, and they rarely play too much off their last 2 albums. They've been playing Anthems live in it's entirety a lot recently, and they have played Nightside Eclipse in it's entirety in the past. What do we think the odds are they will play each record completely while on board? I have a hard time thinking of how they will fill two 75-min sets otherwise, unless they just repeat the same set twice or develop a sudden affinity for playing IX and Prometheus material live.
We'd better get some Nightside Eclipse action, darnit!Downvod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:08 pm
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‘Anthems twice’ is what I was speaking of. Again, I might be reading into it too much, but as far as I’m aware, Emperor hasn’t done anything but an Anthems set since 2014.
So, out of interest. Let's presume that these set lenghts are correct. So have 3x 45Min, 3x 60Min and 1x 75Min.cowboy71 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:58 pm Never too early to start is it?
75 minutes ("Headliners")
Emperor
60 minutes
Candlemass (60 minutes in 2012)
Epica (60 each time previous)
Haggard (60 each time previous)
45 minutes
Einherjer (45 each time previous)
Leaves Eyes (45 each time previous)
Origin (45 minutes in 2015)
Sad to hear about the tour, but I'd be stunned if they got 45. If anything, I could see them getting 75, at least from what I see online they have a big fanbase. Their previous NA tour before the one with Fleshgod had Eluveitie booked as support, and apparently Eluveitie is worth 75 now, so it is hard to see them getting 45, but who knows!acidbasement wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:44 am Epica's star is waning, isn't it? Their North American tour with Fleshgod Apocalypse tanked pretty hard, according to my friend who knows a lot of the local promoters in various cities (lots of people lost money). I'm sure they'll probably still get 60 minutes, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they got downgraded to 45. Though they were announced second, so what do I know?
I doubt they'll get an extended set, they've been pretty clear that this tour set is focused on DYU, but won't involve them playing the album in it's entirety.
Ahh - good to know! Will modify accordinglyDanny24601 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:58 pmI doubt they'll get an extended set, they've been pretty clear that this tour set is focused on DYU, but won't involve them playing the album in it's entirety.
Epica did a tour with FGA?acidbasement wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:44 am Epica's star is waning, isn't it? Their North American tour with Fleshgod Apocalypse tanked pretty hard, according to my friend who knows a lot of the local promoters in various cities (lots of people lost money). I'm sure they'll probably still get 60 minutes, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they got downgraded to 45. Though they were announced second, so what do I know?
Is it? They're both heavily symphonic/operatic, and Epica has a fairly strong death metal influence. To me, it was a pretty strong lineup, that mix of bands which have a sense of continuity with each other without feeling like you're watching the same band over and over again.Gratch wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:57 pmEpica did a tour with FGA?acidbasement wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:44 am Epica's star is waning, isn't it? Their North American tour with Fleshgod Apocalypse tanked pretty hard, according to my friend who knows a lot of the local promoters in various cities (lots of people lost money). I'm sure they'll probably still get 60 minutes, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they got downgraded to 45. Though they were announced second, so what do I know?
That's a really odd combination.
They could just cut Kingdom of Heaven and play it on the second set. Note to Epica: Play Kingdom of Heaven.Danny24601 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:58 pmI doubt they'll get an extended set, they've been pretty clear that this tour set is focused on DYU, but won't involve them playing the album in it's entirety.
If they would play the entire album, he would have said so, like for MOONSORROW.EPICA will perform two sets, one of which will be based around their landmark 2009 album, "Design Your Universe"!
I wouldn't be surprised if Devvy is up there for 75, and Venom gets bumped down to 60.Jotunheimr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:16 pm Any guesses for how long Devin's sets will be? My guess is 60 minutes based on his placement on posters for other metal fests. And Venom? They got 90 minutes in 2012 and 75 minutes in 2015. Does that mean they'll get an hour this time around?
I'm thinking Devy will get two 60-minute sets, but I sure wouldn't mind two 75-minute sets, or a 75 and a 60, nosirreee......cowboy71 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:54 pmI wouldn't be surprised if Devvy is up there for 75, and Venom gets bumped down to 60.Jotunheimr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:16 pm Any guesses for how long Devin's sets will be? My guess is 60 minutes based on his placement on posters for other metal fests. And Venom? They got 90 minutes in 2012 and 75 minutes in 2015. Does that mean they'll get an hour this time around?
But damn, with the quality of announcements so far who knows?
Keep in mind that only 14 bands have been confirmed to play Bloodstock. Not that DT isn’t worthy of a headline spot, but there are plenty of bands to be announced including more big names.
Not sure what the amount of bands so far announced on Bloodstock has to do with it. Fact is, that festival typically has some big names as headliners... usually bands that are too big for 70k. If Dev is a headliner there, he is very likely to be one on the boat.Jotunheimr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:53 amKeep in mind that only 14 bands have been confirmed to play Bloodstock. Not that DT isn’t worthy of a headline spot, but there are plenty of bands to be announced including more big names.
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