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    How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:31 pm

    May as well get this ball rolling. The motivation is low though as I'm not booking at this point :P

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 24
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by mooyagi » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:41 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:31 pm May as well get this ball rolling. The motivation is low though as I'm not booking at this point :P
    See you on the boat. :lol:
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:36 pm

    mooyagi wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:41 pm
    cowboy71 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:31 pm May as well get this ball rolling. The motivation is low though as I'm not booking at this point :P
    See you on the boat. :lol:
    I'm sure there will still be openings later in the year when I can actually afford it. Stupid skipper opening booking too damn early (we've always got to find SOMETHING to complain about, right?) :lol:
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:45 am

    Starting to see a lot more red, but still only categories with low or unknown, quantities.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ??? / ?? / ?? / ??? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 50
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:19 am

    cowboy71 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:45 am Starting to see a lot more red, but still only categories with low or unknown, quantities.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.
    According to CruiseDeckPlans.com, Indy has 94 less cabins than Freedom (1918 vs 2012).
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:04 pm

    toby wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:19 am
    cowboy71 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:45 am Starting to see a lot more red, but still only categories with low or unknown, quantities.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.
    According to CruiseDeckPlans.com, Indy has 94 less cabins than Freedom (1918 vs 2012).
    Good to know. At some point I might do a deeper dive into it and try and do a more detailed deck-by-deck analysis, but my heart is just not in it at this point :lol:
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by Richo » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:29 am

    I will wait to book also. The lineup is full of repeats and travelling from abroad is too expensive to watch the same bands. Hope there will be cabins available after 40 bands.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:39 am

    cowboy71 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:04 pm
    toby wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:19 am
    cowboy71 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:45 am Starting to see a lot more red, but still only categories with low or unknown, quantities.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.
    According to CruiseDeckPlans.com, Indy has 94 less cabins than Freedom (1918 vs 2012).
    Good to know. At some point I might do a deeper dive into it and try and do a more detailed deck-by-deck analysis, but my heart is just not in it at this point :lol:
    Mine either. It's even more complicated by the fact that most of the deck plans have some clustered categories (e.g. 3V/4V and 1V/2V), and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they're allocated. I mentioned a few of the glaring differences in my deck by deck comparison between the Indy and Freedom. Deck 2 on Indy still appears to have the conference center forward, so there's ~22 less 1V/2V cabins was a big one that I recall.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:08 pm

    There is a shipload more red on the prices page now.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 515
    Upcoming Gigs:
    -/-Dream-Evil-/-Skalmold-/-Hammerfall-/-Mike-Tramps-White-Lion-/-Jinjer-Kittie-/-Epic Fest-/-
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by caddee313 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:23 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:08 pm There is a shipload more red on the prices page now.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 515
    Seems to be selling...I committed at Noon EDT (4B) class.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:22 pm

    Little bit of movement in the last day, but not much.

    Not sure if any category changes since 2024 so just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 /
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

    Total Cabins in sold out categories: 515
    Upcoming Gigs:
    -/-Dream-Evil-/-Skalmold-/-Hammerfall-/-Mike-Tramps-White-Lion-/-Jinjer-Kittie-/-Epic Fest-/-
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:17 pm

    toby wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:39 am
    Mine either. It's even more complicated by the fact that most of the deck plans have some clustered categories (e.g. 3V/4V and 1V/2V), and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they're allocated. I mentioned a few of the glaring differences in my deck by deck comparison between the Indy and Freedom. Deck 2 on Indy still appears to have the conference center forward, so there's ~22 less 1V/2V cabins was a big one that I recall.
    Yep correct - by my count there are 27 less 1V cabins on Deck 2.

    Other main differences I spotted:

    - Deck 6 there USED to be 4 Junior Suites which are now 2 Grands.
    - Deck 11, there are now two 4Vs, but less 3 J3s
    - Deck 12 there are no longer 4D and 3M class cabins. They seem to all be 1L now
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:54 am

    cowboy71 wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:17 pm
    toby wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:39 am
    Mine either. It's even more complicated by the fact that most of the deck plans have some clustered categories (e.g. 3V/4V and 1V/2V), and there's no hard and fast rule as to how they're allocated. I mentioned a few of the glaring differences in my deck by deck comparison between the Indy and Freedom. Deck 2 on Indy still appears to have the conference center forward, so there's ~22 less 1V/2V cabins was a big one that I recall.
    Yep correct - by my count there are 27 less 1V cabins on Deck 2.

    Other main differences I spotted:

    - Deck 6 there USED to be 4 Junior Suites which are now 2 Grands.
    - Deck 11, there are now two 4Vs, but less 3 J3s
    - Deck 12 there are no longer 4D and 3M class cabins. They seem to all be 1L now
    Yeah, I was trying to be quick about it, so I didn't do a detailed count, but here's what I had on those decks.

    Deck 12:
    Some differences in cabin layout. Most of the forward cabins are 1L Panoramic on Indy and they extend a slight bit further down. There are no aft cabins on Indy unlike several 3M/4M Oceanviews on Freedom.

    Deck 11:
    Might be the biggest differences overall even if not in cabin layout. Pool deck layout doesn't have fake palm trees on Indy, but has several tiers coming down from Deck 12 where you can watch Pool Deck stage. Indy has Fish and Ships instead of El Loco Fresh. Supposedly Indy still has the saunas. There are also 4 less cabins (the 3 x J3/J4 and 1 x 1L cabins on the port side are not present on Indy)

    Deck 6:
    Some differences in cabin layout, specifically the aft cabins at the end are laid out differently.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by Amalu » Tue May 07, 2024 11:52 pm

    Silver sales haven't done much in terms of sold out categories, right?

    Public sales will surely follow very soon.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Wed May 08, 2024 3:25 am

    There have been some category changes since 2024 but just rolling with the 2024 figures.

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 / ??
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by aleyeahed » Wed May 08, 2024 4:24 am

    Wow, the total sold out cabins went from 515 to 813 on this latest update. That's a helluva jump. How many cabins do we think are available, total? Not currently but before sales began.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Wed May 08, 2024 7:09 am

    aleyeahed wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 4:24 am Wow, the total sold out cabins went from 515 to 813 on this latest update. That's a helluva jump. How many cabins do we think are available, total? Not currently but before sales began.
    Total cabins on Indy is 1918. It's slightly less than Freedom. That's total, but there are some number that will go to bands, 70K crew, etc., so there will be some number less than that available for booking. For planning purposes, assume 3000 'tickets' at double occupancy, so probably a max of 1500 cabins that are available to Survivors/n00bs.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by slayergeek » Wed May 08, 2024 8:35 am

    toby wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 7:09 am

    Total cabins on Indy is 1918. It's slightly less than Freedom. That's total, but there are some number that will go to bands, 70K crew, etc., so there will be some number less than that available for booking. For planning purposes, assume 3000 'tickets' at double occupancy, so probably a max of 1500 cabins that are available to Survivors/n00bs.
    I would think less than that. For a normal cruise double occupancy is the standard, but for our cruise, they stack us out pretty well :-) We have way more 3 or 4 to a cabins than a normal cruise does. I would think the average occupancy would be at least 2 1/2 if not 3.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Wed May 08, 2024 9:15 am

    slayergeek wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 8:35 am
    toby wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 7:09 am

    Total cabins on Indy is 1918. It's slightly less than Freedom. That's total, but there are some number that will go to bands, 70K crew, etc., so there will be some number less than that available for booking. For planning purposes, assume 3000 'tickets' at double occupancy, so probably a max of 1500 cabins that are available to Survivors/n00bs.
    I would think less than that. For a normal cruise double occupancy is the standard, but for our cruise, they stack us out pretty well :-) We have way more 3 or 4 to a cabins than a normal cruise does. I would think the average occupancy would be at least 2 1/2 if not 3.
    I think that's almost definitely accurate, but that's why I said max. Andy still promotes it as 3000 tickets, even though when it sells out, it has more than 3000 people. I guess we'll find out if/when it sells out.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Sun May 12, 2024 8:39 pm

    1V Quads re-available so must only be 1 or 2 of those
    J3 Quads gone

    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

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    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
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    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 / ??
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
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    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by MuzakMaker » Mon May 13, 2024 8:01 am

    Can confirm now that there are at least a handful of cabins that are either kept for public sales or bands.

    When I caved, I joined a triple cabin that was able to upgrade to a quad in a sold out category.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by mbob » Mon May 13, 2024 9:02 am

    There really isn't any way to accurately determine how many spots have been sold based on cabin availability. Ships sell spots based on max life boat occupancy, not number of cabins.

    Example...Life boat A fits 100 people. Life boat A has 50 cabins assigned to it. All of those cabins can have double occupancy but 10 of them can also accommodate 3 and/or 4 people as well. While the life boat only has room for 100 the block of cabins assigned to it could have 120 passengers if each cabin was sold to max capacity. Once that block of cabins reaches 100 passengers then that block of cabins is sold out regardless if any are still available.

    Andy has a tendency of trying to sell each cabin at max capacity which is why every year that it is a sell out there are tons of empty cabins which get used for beer storage and press interview rooms.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by Godflesh » Tue May 14, 2024 7:20 pm

    According to this site, on the Indy J3+J4 only total 87 cabins.
    https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/ships/c ... .php?c=546
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by toby » Tue May 14, 2024 8:03 pm

    Godflesh wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:20 pm According to this site, on the Indy J3+J4 only total 87 cabins.
    https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/ships/c ... .php?c=546
    Cool, I'll have to check that out tomorrow. I was too lazy to do a manual count.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Wed May 15, 2024 3:27 am

    toby wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:03 pm
    Godflesh wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:20 pm According to this site, on the Indy J3+J4 only total 87 cabins.
    https://www.cruisedeckplans.com/ships/c ... .php?c=546
    Cool, I'll have to check that out tomorrow. I was too lazy to do a manual count.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by sflheadbanger » Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:28 am

    Spoke to someone at 70K when we booked this morning. only 2nd deck is available for 2V and 2N. I'd expect those to sell out quickly with public starting today. 2T still had a bunch left.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:58 pm

    2V (93) and 1V (17) Gone. 2T the only interiors left.
    Grand Suite quads gone too (22)



    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 / ??
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by BoltThrower » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:59 am

    Still 21 categories of rooms left. Sales seem kinda light. I don’t think there’s been much change in room categories since public sales opened up. I think most folks have achieved Gold status by now.
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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by Pellaz » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:00 pm

    BoltThrower wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:59 am Still 21 categories of rooms left. Sales seem kinda light. I don’t think there’s been much change in room categories since public sales opened up. I think most folks have achieved Gold status by now.

    All interior rooms are sold, except for Promenade Interiors (ov corpse). If sales ARE light, maybe Andy will book some bigger "marquee" names. Or, y'know, bands that are highly requested (Be'Lakor, Powerwolf, Dimmu...)
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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by Sausage Fingers » Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:23 pm

    Pellaz wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:00 pm All interior rooms are sold, except for Promenade Interiors (ov corpse).
    There's still individual tix available for 2V and quad 1V. Those categories are only sold out for private bookings ATM. I don't know what the deal is with that. Sure, they technically make a little bit more on the individual bookings, but a private booking is a guaranteed booked room, which seems more desirable. Unless there's literally one ticket in each category available, but I doubt it. The boat never truly sold out. This year while waiting for the bus, I heard about a guy who got a 1B to himself because he booked the night before sailing.

    EDIT: I just checked, and all the single ladies have even more interior options available (put your hands up!).
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:00 pm

    A few changes but only very minor.



    Type / Double / Triple / Quad / Quin/ SEX / Sept / Oct /
    Standard Interior 4V / 18 /
    Standard Interior 4V / 232 /
    Standard Interior 3V / ?? / 1 / 121 /
    Standard Interior 2V / 93 /
    Standard Interior 1V / ?? / ?? / 17 /
    Promenade View 2T / 168 /
    Spacious Interior 1R / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Spacious Prome 1Q / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 4 /

    --------------------------------------------------------
    Ocean View 4N / 48 / / /
    Ocean View 3N / ?? / ?? / 40 /
    Ocean View 2N / 69 /
    Ocean View 1N / ?? / ?? / 60 /
    Spacious Ocean 4M / 16 /
    Spacious Ocean 3M / ?? / ?? / 18 /
    Ultra Spacious 1K / -- / -- / 2 / ?? / 8 /
    Spacious Pano 1L / 8 / ?? / 34 /
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Standard Balcony 5D / ?? / 62 /
    Standard Balcony 4D / 28 /
    Standard Balcony 2D / 252 / ??
    Standard Balcony 1D / ?? / ?? / 8 /

    Spacious Balcony 4B / 230 /
    Spacious Balcony 3B / ?? / 4 / 74 /
    Spacious Balcony 2B / 50 /
    Spacious Balcony 1B / ?? / 17 / 12 /
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Pano Suite VP / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / 2 /
    Balcony Suite J4 / 56 /
    Balcony Suite J3 / ?? / ?? / 37 /
    Grand Suite GS / ?? / ?? / 22 /
    Grand Suite GT / -- / -- / ?? / ?? / ?? / ?? / 4 /
    Owner Suite OS / ?? / ?? / 6 /

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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by cowboy71 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:06 pm

    Also worth noting is a major logistical challenge facing 70k. A massive number of cabins are doubles and thanks to the ever increasing prices these are getting insanely expensive - 2T, 2N, 2D, 2B, J4. Now we obviously don't know how many of these are sold, but unsold that represents about 600 cabins, and those are all close to or above $US3000 per person when you include taxes etc.

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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by MuzakMaker » Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:55 pm

    cowboy71 wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:06 pm Also worth noting is a major logistical challenge facing 70k. A massive number of cabins are doubles and thanks to the ever increasing prices these are getting insanely expensive - 2T, 2N, 2D, 2B, J4. Now we obviously don't know how many of these are sold, but unsold that represents about 600 cabins, and those are all close to or above $US3000 per person when you include taxes etc.

    In this current global economic climate that is truly insane, EVEN if you lived locally and had minimal other expenses! If you add in domestic or international flights, plus currency conversion etc that's a MASSIVE hit to the hip pocket that even I cannot currently take.
    And for 3K USD each with myself and one other friend we could pick a tour and follow it for a good chunk of the routing. If you have the right vehicle and the tour routing is gracious, you could feasibly do a whole tour.

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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by Metaltrout » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:35 pm

    I changed from our normal 2 person balcony to an interior quad. It will be the cheapest 70k for me but I'm not sure about sleeping. I've already made peace with the probability of falling asleep in a random spot and ending up in the Facebook group as a 70k napper.
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    Re: Synaptic Indulgence

    by cegr80 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:35 am

    Metaltrout wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:35 pm I changed from our normal 2 person balcony to an interior quad. It will be the cheapest 70k for me but I'm not sure about sleeping. I've already made peace with the probability of falling asleep in a random spot and ending up in the Facebook group as a 70k napper.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by cowboy71 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:09 pm

    Nearly 4 MONTHS since my last update so thought I should check.

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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by MuzakMaker » Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:45 am

    I mean, we've only had 5 bands announced since the last post.

    Twilight Force
    Finntroll
    Trouble
    Swallow the Sun
    Ihsahn

    Not exactly any "OH MY GOD NOW I need to buy tickets" bands.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by Pellaz » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 am

    MuzakMaker wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:45 am I mean, we've only had 5 bands announced since the last post.

    Twilight Force
    Finntroll
    Trouble
    Swallow the Sun
    Ihsahn

    Not exactly any "OH MY GOD NOW I need to buy tickets" bands.
    I have to assume that UMC is happy -- or at least not too unhappy -- with sales at this point. They COULD announce some big "marquee" bands to try and sell the rest of the cabins, but they really haven't.
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    Re: How fast will 2025 sell out?

    by MuzakMaker » Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:52 am

    Pellaz wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:22 am
    MuzakMaker wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:45 am I mean, we've only had 5 bands announced since the last post.

    Twilight Force
    Finntroll
    Trouble
    Swallow the Sun
    Ihsahn

    Not exactly any "OH MY GOD NOW I need to buy tickets" bands.
    I have to assume that UMC is happy -- or at least not too unhappy -- with sales at this point. They COULD announce some big "marquee" bands to try and sell the rest of the cabins, but they really haven't.
    This is also generally the dead period for bands

    Lots of bigger bands in the front and back thirds. One to move tickets for this year and one to move tickets for next year (and maybe to entice some last minute purchases from folks who can drop a couple thousand US that fast)

    I don't expect another "OMG" band until about 45
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